why does the idea of replacing the 3ds completely with the Switch upset people?

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Izzythewinner 10 hours ago#1 games would clearly perform much better... putting alliance alive on it which is still a great 3ds game coming couldve just been put on the switch instead for example. Also Known as IzzyTheWhiner by Bad users! - Izzy The Winner, Best GameFaqs User stickyreportquote

Ben111 7 hours ago#2 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

irulethegalaxy 7 hours ago#3 Izzythewinner posted... games would clearly perform much better... putting alliance alive on it which is still a great 3ds game coming couldve just been put on the switch instead for example. Again, that's a game that's been in development for a while now--long before the switch. Yanking a game that's nearly through development and nearing release to change it COMPLETELY for a new console (no 2nd screen, different resolution, new engine) basically means cancelling that game. Doing such things ESPECIALLY with a jump over handheld to home system is rarely if ever done. And doing so delays the game for a very long time. And that's before we even talk about the money that it costs to rework the game, which can be huge. 3DS and Switch don't run on the same sort of engines, suddenly switching the game from 3DS to Switch would basically mean scrapping everything except art and sound assets and reworking from scratch. The 3DS is winding down, but yes, games will still come out for it probably for the next year or so. It is NOT feasible to just chuck aside a couple years of work on a game to restart it for a new system. This is especially true with smaller companies (basically ones not called "Nintendo" or "Square Enix"). Porting is not a magical or free process. Friend Code: 5155-2976-5976 reportquote

ZeldaFan14 7 hours ago#4 Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online This. Also the stupid joy-cons. https://i.imgur.com/PZZg302.gif reportquote

roseybjb 7 hours ago#5 some people don't have the money to buy the switch, or some cannot find any around in there area reportquote

Izzythewinner (Topic Creator)7 hours ago#6 the 3ds is immensely a dated peice of hardware... the switch seems to do everything vastly better, i love my 3ds, but i feel like its time is at an end, what with the switch being a completely superior handheld, capable of giving multiplayer on the go and many more other facts as to why its true. 1.Paid online its to be expected. you are going to get a better service if its paid. the online to 3ds or any handheld up to this point has been complete trash, not to mention in most cases, anything worth getting ended up as a microtransaction anyways. (although MH was always free content somehow) 2.Games are 50% more expensive more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. 3.No dual screens good freaking riddence. it was gimmicky crap like that, which was preventing games from getting multiplatform releases in the first place.since the switch doesnt have that crap, we can expect to see more multiplatform games. 1 screen always worked in the past with every other gaming device, i doubt the loss of one will be a problem. and besides, the constant closing and opening of "clamshell" portables wear down the hinges over time, causing the top screen to get flappy and frayed. so farewell to that flawed design. 4.Not a fully available touch screen well thats just simply wrong so no need to comment here. 5.Console is 300$ and new 3ds handhelds are 50$ less then that.. considering all the features you get from the switch (console style graphics, couch multiplayer, better everything pretty much) i would say crying about the 50$ more is a joke argument, and you are using this as a desperate excuse, unless u are that cheap. 6.Greedy Paid online you already mentioned this in your first bullet point... refer to what i said in the first response. Also Known as IzzyTheWhiner by Bad users! - Izzy The Winner, Best GameFaqs User (edited 7 hours ago)reportquote

JustABox 7 hours ago#7 Because the battery life of the Switch as a dedicated handheld is terrible. The average battery life is around 2 and a half to 3 hours. Favorite Series: Valkyria Chronicles, Metal Gear Solid, Trails of Cold Steel, Metroid, Devil May Cry, YS Still foolishly hoping for Skies of Arcadia sequel reportquote

Izzythewinner (Topic Creator)7 hours ago#8 JustABox posted... Because the battery life of the Switch as a dedicated handheld is terrible. The average battery life is around 2 and a half to 3 hours. probably the only fair argument you can use against the switch, but personally, i havent had much of an issue with it yet, just bring a charger Also Known as IzzyTheWhiner by Bad users! - Izzy The Winner, Best GameFaqs User reportquote

Freelance_Wolf 6 hours ago#9 Izzythewinner posted... the 3ds is immensely a dated peice of hardware... Why does this even matter? I still play GB games, and GBA games, and retro PC games. Dated tech means nothing to me. Remember that 'newer' isn't always 'better.'  The Switch is a console first and foremost, with console-based prices and paid online. I only play handhelds and PC games now. Consoles no longer interest me. If Nintendo/Sony/whoever makes a new dedicated handheld, I'll be there. Until then. I will keep playing, and enjoying my 'outdated tech.' (edited 6 hours ago)reportquote

SonGaton 6 hours ago#10 Because I like my 3DS. Don't play dumb with me, you're not as good at it as I am. reportquote

Erukia 5 hours ago#11 3DS is completely portable, has the clamshell design, and I love it. "I have loved the stars too fondly to be fearful of the night."  New Leaf Dream Address: 5D00 - 0075 - B871 reportquote

pikachupwnage 5 hours ago#12 irulethegalaxy posted... Izzythewinner posted... games would clearly perform much better... putting alliance alive on it which is still a great 3ds game coming couldve just been put on the switch instead for example. Again, that's a game that's been in development for a while now--long before the switch. Yanking a game that's nearly through development and nearing release to change it COMPLETELY for a new console (no 2nd screen, different resolution, new engine) basically means cancelling that game. Doing such things ESPECIALLY with a jump over handheld to home system is rarely if ever done. And doing so delays the game for a very long time. And that's before we even talk about the money that it costs to rework the game, which can be huge. 3DS and Switch don't run on the same sort of engines, suddenly switching the game from 3DS to Switch would basically mean scrapping everything except art and sound assets and reworking from scratch. The 3DS is winding down, but yes, games will still come out for it probably for the next year or so. It is NOT feasible to just chuck aside a couple years of work on a game to restart it for a new system. This is especially true with smaller companies (basically ones not called "Nintendo" or "Square Enix"). Porting is not a magical or free process. This. Also people don't like it because obxoxious jackasses won't shut up about it and everyone just goes "I bet you are jealous you don't own one." If you object to the douchery. I got one launch day I just don't like obnoxious dead horse beating entitled whining. "why isn't this on Switch!" "Is 3DS dead yet?" So many times a day. We get it. Please stop beating the horse. It's bones have already been ground to dust from the ceaseless beatings. I'm Mary Poppins y'all. http://i2.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/665/328/d75.gif (edited 5 hours ago)reportquote

Bubcus93 5 hours ago#13 Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online 7.Overpriced accessories  8.Little third party support  9.Paid online reportquote

TinyTim123 5 hours ago#14 The Switch is going for much more of the home console type experience. I don't want that kind of gaming experience. I've essentially been a portable gamer since the XBox360 / PS3 days because I don't want the kinds of games made for those systems. Portable games, while looking less shiny and less HD, offer the kinds of gameplay present on the PS2, original XBox, GameCube, the kinds of games I liked playing. The extra $20 for a new game for the kinds of games I don't really like doesn't help. Currently, I am Setsuna is the only game out now on the Switch I want to play. Give me some Kirby and some Animal Crossing (and I know I'll have to get a Switch to play those), and I'll be happier, but I simply don't want to play the kinds of games released on current gen consoles. I also don't care about Mario, Smash, Splatoon, any 3D Zelda (liked Link Between Worlds, hated Ocarina 3D) or any of those.  The 3DS got enough third party support with the types of games I want to play, but admittedly the first year was pretty sparse (launch owner). I know I'll eventually have to move on to the Switch, but it's focus is something that isn't too appealing to me right now. Plus, the thing is too bulky to be realistically pocket portable for me. I don't bring a bag or backpack with me everywhere, and it's not appropriate to do so, nor do I wear cargo pants. With the 3DS and the Vita to a lesser extent (i have a clamshell case for the Vita), I tuck it in my pocket and am good to go. Not so with the Switch.  So for me specifically, it doesn't offer the kinds of games I want, the games it does have are priced higher than I want to pay for what is on offer, fewer and fewer of the games I wantto play are forthcoming, and it's not a good bring it with me system. http://www.explosm.net/comics/657/ En un mundo perfecto, eso definitivamente importaria. reportquote

Ben111 5 hours ago#15 Bubcus93 posted... Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online 7.Overpriced accessories  8.Little third party support  9.Paid online 10. Low battery life  11. No on console voice chat 12. Paid online My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

n00bsaib0t 5 hours ago#16 Freelance_Wolf posted... Izzythewinner posted... the 3ds is immensely a dated peice of hardware... Why does this even matter? I still play GB games, and GBA games, and retro PC games. Dated tech means nothing to me. Remember that 'newer' isn't always 'better.'  The Switch is a console first and foremost, with console-based prices and paid online. I only play handhelds and PC games now. Consoles no longer interest me. If Nintendo/Sony/whoever makes a new dedicated handheld, I'll be there. Until then. I will keep playing, and enjoying my 'outdated tech.' We all still play retro games. I would be upset if new Game Boy games were still being made when I could have them on a newer machine with my other current games, though. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Cozy 4 hours ago#17 I don't think anyone is upset about the eventual replacement of the 3DS, what I think more people are upset about - and I can confirm by reading the replies here - is the Switch in its current state replacing the 3DS: Ben111 posted... Bubcus93 posted... Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online 7.Overpriced accessories  8.Little third party support  9.Paid online 10. Low battery life  11. No on console voice chat 12. Paid online It's pretty pathetic to see people fighting between 3DS and Switch boards. It was sad when people duked it with the Vita, though even at least that could be passed as fanboyism. This however... both are f***ing Nintendo systems. What is this then, a blood feud? "Poop" (edited 4 hours ago)reportquote

supremeblaster 4 hours ago#18 Ben111 posted... Bubcus93 posted... Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Greedy Paid online 7.Overpriced accessories  8.Little third party support  9.Paid online 10. Low battery life  11. No on console voice chat 12. Paid online You mean the same battery life that 3DS had? 3-5 hours. And previously mentioned 'little third party support', sorry to inform you but it currently has several times higher third party than 3DS did in the same timeframe. 3DS's western third party support was basically non-existant, while the Switch is set to get games like Skyrim, Doom, Wolfenstein, LA Noire and the like, on top of strong japanese support with stuff like Octopath Traveller, Shin Megami Tensei, Dragon Quest, on top of incredible 1st party support, getting a massive 3D Zelda, a full on 3D Mario and several others in just the first year. At the end of the day, all your mediocre nitpicks can be taken down with 'It has more games, it has better games, all its games look a hell of a lot better' I never cared about justice, and I don't recall ever calling myself a hero. I have always only fought for the people I believe in. ~Zero (edited 4 hours ago)reportquote

irulethegalaxy 4 hours ago#19 pikachupwnage posted... Also people don't like it because obxoxious jackasses won't shut up about it and everyone just goes "I bet you are jealous you don't own one." If you object to the douchery. I got one launch day I just don't like obnoxious dead horse beating entitled whining. Yep. I could literally stroll over to Amazon and buy one right now and have it in 2 days if I wanted it. I just don't see a need to own one at the moment. Maybe when Pokemon is closer or if they announce DQXI to be a Switch exclusive.  3DS has a TON of games coming out that I want over the next 6 months, and the Switch has none (ATM...). Viva la 3DS! Friend Code: 5155-2976-5976 reportquote

Zero_Maniac 4 hours ago#20 Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online (greedy move) 2.Games are 50% more expensive 3.No dual screens 4.Not a fully available touch screen 5.Console is 300$ 6.Switch is not a true handheld 7.Even worse battery life Updated your list. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

Zero_Maniac 4 hours ago#21 Izzythewinner posted... its to be expected. you are going to get a better service if its paid. Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? Izzythewinner posted... more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. Let's see, 40 x 1.5 = 60. Yeah, they're 50% more expensive. No, Switch games do not adequately double up as console games. The Switch is too weak to handle more intensive games that the PS4/XB1 are getting. The Switch has characteristics of both a handheld and a home console, but ultimately fails to excel at being either. Izzythewinner posted... good freaking riddence. it was gimmicky crap like that, which was preventing games from getting multiplatform releases in the first place. Dual screens allowed a lot of ports of other games like Chrono Trigger to remove clutter from the screen where most of the action takes place. It was a good if odd design choice, and you're crazy for wanting it gone. Izzythewinner posted... and new 3ds handhelds are 50$ less then that.. This is factually incorrect. Where were you when the 3DS got its price cut mere months after launch? Even the N3DS got priced at $200 USD when it launched. Your ignorance here is embarrassing. You're just wrong if you think the Switch scratches the same itch that the 3DS does. They have different audiences. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

Zero_Maniac 4 hours ago#22 supremeblaster posted... You mean the same battery life that 3DS had? 3-5 hours. Nope. Switch has 2.5-5 hours, the 3DS has 3.5-6.5 hours, and even more if you play DS games. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

Blayshy 4 hours ago#23 Lol, TC's gone. Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others? -Mario, Ganondorf, Sonic, Bowser Jr. / Wendy, Duck Hunt, Marth, Mewtwo Mainer. reportquote

I_like_BigButts 4 hours ago#24 Zero_Maniac posted... supremeblaster posted... You mean the same battery life that 3DS had? 3-5 hours. Nope. Switch has 2.5-5 hours, the 3DS has 3.5-6.5 hours, and even more if you play DS games. switch's battery is comparable to the original 3DS' at launch. and I can not lie reportquote

Zero_Maniac 4 hours ago#25 I_like_BigButts posted... Zero_Maniac posted... supremeblaster posted... You mean the same battery life that 3DS had? 3-5 hours. Nope. Switch has 2.5-5 hours, the 3DS has 3.5-6.5 hours, and even more if you play DS games. switch's battery is comparable to the original 3DS' at launch. Yeah, but later versions (even the regular XL) have better battery life. The Switch has no revision that gives it better battery life. Therefore, it is not an apt replacement. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

I_like_BigButts 3 hours ago#26 Not everyone has upgraded to the XL or N3DS, either. It's more of a talking point to those who believe the systems aren't comparable, since they have more similarities than some people want to believe. and I can not lie reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#27 Zero_Maniac posted... Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online (greedy move)  2.Games are 50% more expensive  3.No dual screens  4.Not a fully available touch screen  5.Console is 300$  6.Switch is not a true handheld  7.Even worse battery life Updated your list. By leaving things that were debunked and adding bulls***? Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Ben111 3 hours ago#28 I_like_BigButts posted... Not everyone has upgraded to the XL or N3DS, either. It's more of a talking point to those who believe the systems aren't comparable, since they have more similarities than some people want to believe. Switch had more similarities with the n64 than it does with the 3ds My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 (edited 3 hours ago)reportquote

Zero_Maniac 3 hours ago#29 n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted... Ben111 posted... 1.Paid online (greedy move)  2.Games are 50% more expensive  3.No dual screens  4.Not a fully available touch screen  5.Console is 300$  6.Switch is not a true handheld  7.Even worse battery life Updated your list. By leaving things that were debunked and adding bulls***? None of them were debunked. I have yet to see valid arguments against them. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

HappyDog 3 hours ago#30 SonGaton posted... Because I like my 3DS. "Her weave expired now it's a wove" Crank Lucas reportquote

Sharp_94 3 hours ago#31 New member here and just gonna take a shot in the dark and ask a couple questions  1. If the switch does indeed relace the 3ds, would ds/3ds games eventually be playable on the switch?  2. When doing its console thing, does the switch have any access to the touchscreen?  3. Why is this fought about so often instead of having just a normal simple conversation where if someone is mistaken they can be corrected and not insulted vice/versa reportquote

Kira_Elric2 3 hours ago#32 Izzythewinner posted... more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. You should learn better math. 3DS games are $40. What's 50% of $40? $20. Now add $20 to $40 and what do you get? $60. Therefor, Switch games are 50% more expensive than 3DS games. Sharp_94 posted... 1. If the switch does indeed relace the 3ds, would ds/3ds games eventually be playable on the switch?  2. When doing its console thing, does the switch have any access to the touchscreen?  3. Why is this fought about so often instead of having just a normal simple conversation where if someone is mistaken they can be corrected and not insulted vice/versa 1. Impossible due to lack of second screen or Touch screen in TV mode. Would have to play in handheld mode only. 2. You can not access the touch screen when in Docked mode (edited 3 hours ago)reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#33 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted...  Ben111 posted...  1.Paid online (greedy move)  2.Games are 50% more expensive  3.No dual screens  4.Not a fully available touch screen  5.Console is 300$  6.Switch is not a true handheld  7.Even worse battery life Updated your list. By leaving things that were debunked and adding bulls***? None of them were debunked. I have yet to see valid arguments against them. $40 to $60 is factually not 50% more. This was already said. If you didn't see it that's your fault. Dual screens can be done with one screen. WiiU does it with DS VC, 2DS does it outright. Yes, the touch screen is fully available. It's right there on the unit like it is on the 3DS. There are even touch only games. Yes, it is a true handheld. It's a tablet,it does all it's own processing. It's all contained in one unit. It's completely handheld. If Switch isn't truly handheld for it's TV out dock then neither is the PSP Go. Battery life is literally the same. 3-6 hours depending on the game and your settings. So yeah, bulls***. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Izzythewinner (Topic Creator)3 hours ago#34 Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying the PS PLUS subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Let's see, 40 x 1.5 = 60. Yeah, they're 50% more expensive. No, Switch games do not adequately double up as console games. The Switch is too weak to handle more intensive games that the PS4/XB1 are getting. The Switch has characteristics of both a handheld and a home console, but ultimately fails to excel at being either. 20 bucks more is hardly anything to cry about. you even said it yourself, its a console first so why is 60 a problem all of a sudden? get your own opinion straight. which is it... a console or a handheld? changing your argument around to fit the current topic is called double standards and its embarassing. Dual screens allowed a lot of ports of other games like Chrono Trigger to remove clutter from the screen where most of the action takes place. It was a good if odd design choice, and you're crazy for wanting it gone. Lol. chrono trigger was originally on the SNES (not sure you knew that) and the game was just fine back then and dual screens was never even a thing yet. so no.we can live without dual screens just fine. This is factually incorrect. Where were you when the 3DS got its price cut mere months after launch? Even the N3DS got priced at $200 USD when it launched. Your ignorance here is embarrassing. except its not incorrect. unless you were born after the year 2011, the price of the latest and top 3ds models are always priced at the starting amount of 250$ unless you get a 2ds or non xl model. since the Switch is still brand new, of course its not going to have a price cut. Facts of starting price being 249.99$ is right here: https://www.lifewire.com/cost-of-nintendo-3ds-1126267 so dont even bother acting like you know facts because trust me i heard it all before. you dont. You're just wrong if you think the Switch scratches the same itch that the 3DS does. They have different audiences. *looks at upcoming fire emblem, Xenoblade, Octopath traveler, monster hunter, metroid, mario and pokemon games* yeahhh no. you are wrong about that too, son. Also Known as IzzyTheWhiner by Bad users! - Izzy The Winner, Best GameFaqs User (edited 3 hours ago)reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#35 Kira_Elric2 posted... Izzythewinner posted... more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. You should learn better math. 3DS games are $40. What's 50% of $40? $20. Now add $20 to $40 and what do you get? $60. Therefor, Switch games are 50% more expensive than 3DS games. Sharp_94 posted... 1. If the switch does indeed relace the 3ds, would ds/3ds games eventually be playable on the switch?  2. When doing its console thing, does the switch have any access to the touchscreen?  3. Why is this fought about so often instead of having just a normal simple conversation where if someone is mistaken they can be corrected and not insulted vice/versa 1. Impossible due to lack of second screen or Touch screen in TV mode. Would have to play in handheld mode only. 2. You can not access the touch screen when in Docked mode Lack of a touch screen never stopped any system from emulating DS. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Zero_Maniac 3 hours ago#36 n00bsaib0t posted... $40 to $60 is factually not 50% more. This was already said. If you didn't see it that's your fault. Kira_Elric2 posted... You should learn better math. 3DS games are $40. What's 50% of $40? $20. Now add $20 to $40 and what do you get? $60. Therefor, Switch games are 50% more expensive than 3DS games. n00bsaib0t posted... Dual screens can be done with one screen. WiiU does it with DS VC, 2DS does it outright. Yeah, with one, much larger screen. Good luck pulling that off in handheld mode. n00bsaib0t posted... Yes, it is a true handheld. It's a tablet,it does all it's own processing. It's all contained in one unit. It's completely handheld. If Switch isn't truly handheld for it's TV out dock then neither is the PSP Go. Wrong, because the complete console can't even fit in a pocket. Your PSP Go analogy falls flat because the PSP Go fits in pretty much any pocket, nor does it gain processing power from being docked. n00bsaib0t posted... Battery life is literally the same. 3-6 hours depending on the game and your settings. Wrong again, because it's very possible to make the 3DS last longer than the Switch when playing games native to both systems. Try playing BotW for more than 3 hours. Go on, post the footage. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#37 Izzythewinner posted... Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Several games were cross buy between WiiU and 3DS. You got a code to put in on the other systems eshop when you purchased. Explain how games being cross buy is Nintendo "always failing" to deliver on it? Nintendo's service comes with a subscription to the retro game library. Sony makes you pay extra for PS Now. Nintendo's has special eshop discounts as well. Fact check yourself or STFU. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Kira_Elric2 3 hours ago#38 n00bsaib0t posted... Kira_Elric2 posted... Izzythewinner posted... more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. You should learn better math. 3DS games are $40. What's 50% of $40? $20. Now add $20 to $40 and what do you get? $60. Therefor, Switch games are 50% more expensive than 3DS games. Sharp_94 posted... 1. If the switch does indeed relace the 3ds, would ds/3ds games eventually be playable on the switch?  2. When doing its console thing, does the switch have any access to the touchscreen?  3. Why is this fought about so often instead of having just a normal simple conversation where if someone is mistaken they can be corrected and not insulted vice/versa 1. Impossible due to lack of second screen or Touch screen in TV mode. Would have to play in handheld mode only. 2. You can not access the touch screen when in Docked mode Lack of a touch screen never stopped any system from emulating DS. That's because people using emulators don't care for lack of features because they're already pirating the game in the first place. Nintendo however cares for their games being able to be experienced 100% as it was on the original console it debuted on. reportquote

Izzythewinner (Topic Creator)3 hours ago#39 n00bsaib0t posted... Izzythewinner posted... Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Several games were cross buy between WiiU and 3DS. You got a code to put in on the other systems eshop when you purchased. Explain how games being cross buy is Nintendo "always failing" to deliver on it? Nintendo's service comes with a subscription to the retro game library. Sony makes you pay extra for PS Now. Nintendo's has special eshop discounts as well. Fact check yourself or STFU. Lol stop lying about cross purchases. thats a complete lie. they have several VC shops with the same games that have to be purchased multiple times ...i had to buy paper mario twice, once on the wii, and again on the wiiu. nintendo does not do cross purchases so think before you speak. Also Known as IzzyTheWhiner by Bad users! - Izzy The Winner, Best GameFaqs User reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#40 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... $40 to $60 is factually not 50% more. This was already said. If you didn't see it that's your fault. Kira_Elric2 posted... You should learn better math. 3DS games are $40. What's 50% of $40? $20. Now add $20 to $40 and what do you get? $60. Therefor, Switch games are 50% more expensive than 3DS games. n00bsaib0t posted... Dual screens can be done with one screen. WiiU does it with DS VC, 2DS does it outright. Yeah, with one, much larger screen. Good luck pulling that off in handheld mode. n00bsaib0t posted... Yes, it is a true handheld. It's a tablet,it does all it's own processing. It's all contained in one unit. It's completely handheld. If Switch isn't truly handheld for it's TV out dock then neither is the PSP Go. Wrong, because the complete console can't even fit in a pocket. Your PSP Go analogy falls flat because the PSP Go fits in pretty much any pocket, nor does it gain processing power from being docked. n00bsaib0t posted... Battery life is literally the same. 3-6 hours depending on the game and your settings. Wrong again, because it's very possible to make the 3DS last longer than the Switch when playing games native to both systems. Try playing BotW for more than 3 hours. Go on, post the footage. The Switch screen is bigger than the 2DS screen. Yes, the 2DS is one screen. Even in handheld mode it will work. The WiiU game pad was smaller and pulled it off. Pockets have nothing to do with handheld. Plus the Switch is smaller than some phones. Really? "Go buy a device that can record more than 3 hours at once for me". f*** off. Lower your screen brightness, use headphones, turn on airplane mode. Boom. 4.5 hours on BOTW. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Zero_Maniac 3 hours ago#41 Izzythewinner posted... sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying the PS PLUS subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Pretty sure they did all this even before PS+ became mandatory for online play. Their servers are no better despite PS+ being mandatory. The money they get from PS+ clearly is not going into improving online play. Your argument is void. Izzythewinner posted... 20 bucks more is hardly anything to cry about. you even said it yourself, its a console first so why is 60 a problem all of a sudden? get your own opinion straight. which is it... a console or a handheld? changing your argument around to fit the current topic is called double standards and its embarassing. $20 USD more is signficant, especially when it's $40 compared to $60. I never said it was anything first, you're putting words into my mouth. It is a hybrid, which means it is neither first. No one is using double standards here. Learn logic. Izzythewinner posted... Lol. chrono trigger was originally on the SNES (not sure you knew that) and the game was just fine back then and dual screens was never even a thing yet. so no.we can live without dual screens just fine. Considering I first played the SNES version, I think I knew that. The game was indeed fine without dual screens, but it was improved with the inclusion of a second screen. Yes, we can live without dual screens just fine, just like how we can live without video games just fine. Dual screens make certain things easier and more enjoyable. Izzythewinner posted... except its not incorrect. unless you were born after the year 2011, the price of the latest and top 3ds models are always priced at the starting amount of 250$ unless you get a 2ds or non xl model. since the Switch is still brand new, of course its not going to have a price cut. Facts of starting price being 249.99$ is right here: https://www.lifewire.com/cost-of-nintendo-3ds-1126267 so dont even bother acting like you know facts because trust me i heard it all before. you dont. I know that the original 3DS was $250 at launch. I even mentioned that in my post which you clearly did not read. The point is, right now even the N3DS XL models can be bought for $200 USD. That's $100 cheaper than the Switch, and yes that's significant. Izzythewinner posted... *looks at upcoming fire emblem, Xenoblade, Octopath traveler, monster hunter, and pokemon games* yeahhh no. you are wrong about that too, son. I like how you include that "son" jab. Did you need to include it to make yourself feel superior? The way you assume I never knew that Chrono Trigger was on the SNES first speaks volumes about you. You just think you know more than everyone else, don't you. Either way, the list of upcoming games for the Switch is not adequate proof of it catering to the same audience as the 3DS. We're talking about hardware, not software. A list of upcoming games is irrelevant. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." (edited 3 hours ago)reportquote

n00bsaib0t 3 hours ago#42 Izzythewinner posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Izzythewinner posted...  Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Several games were cross buy between WiiU and 3DS. You got a code to put in on the other systems eshop when you purchased. Explain how games being cross buy is Nintendo "always failing" to deliver on it?  Nintendo's service comes with a subscription to the retro game library. Sony makes you pay extra for PS Now.  Nintendo's has special eshop discounts as well.  Fact check yourself or STFU. Lol stop lying about cross purchases. thats a complete lie. they have several VC shops with the same games that have to be purchased multiple times ...i had to buy paper mario twice, once on the wii, and again on the wiiu. nintendo does not do cross purchases so think before you speak. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U-download-software/Mario-vs-Donkey-Kong-Tipping-Stars-893004.html http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/01/shantae_and_the_piraters_curse_for_wii_u_and_3ds_eshop_releases_in_europe_and_australia_on_5th_february Exactly like I f***ing said. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

Zero_Maniac 3 hours ago#43 n00bsaib0t posted... The Switch screen is bigger than the 2DS screen. Yes, the 2DS is one screen. Even in handheld mode it will work. The WiiU game pad was smaller and pulled it off. This doesn't mean it works well. n00bsaib0t posted... Pockets have nothing to do with handheld. Plus the Switch is smaller than some phones. Pockets have everything to do with what it considered a dedicated handheld. GBA, PSP, Vita, 3DS, DS, heck even the GameGear...notice anything about them? They can all fit in your pocket. That's on purpose. n00bsaib0t posted... Really? "Go buy a device that can record more than 3 hours at once for me". f*** off. Lower your screen brightness, use headphones, turn on airplane mode. Boom. 4.5 hours on BOTW. Nope, you'll still get 3 hours or less. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

Ben111 2 hours ago#44 n00bsaib0t posted... Izzythewinner posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Izzythewinner posted...  Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Several games were cross buy between WiiU and 3DS. You got a code to put in on the other systems eshop when you purchased. Explain how games being cross buy is Nintendo "always failing" to deliver on it?  Nintendo's service comes with a subscription to the retro game library. Sony makes you pay extra for PS Now.  Nintendo's has special eshop discounts as well.  Fact check yourself or STFU. Lol stop lying about cross purchases. thats a complete lie. they have several VC shops with the same games that have to be purchased multiple times ...i had to buy paper mario twice, once on the wii, and again on the wiiu. nintendo does not do cross purchases so think before you speak. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U-download-software/Mario-vs-Donkey-Kong-Tipping-Stars-893004.html http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/01/shantae_and_the_piraters_curse_for_wii_u_and_3ds_eshop_releases_in_europe_and_australia_on_5th_february Exactly like I f***ing said. Getting the same game on another console for 50% off is not a cross buy. And it was for Pal region only for shantea My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#45 Ben111 posted... I_like_BigButts posted... Not everyone has upgraded to the XL or N3DS, either. It's more of a talking point to those who believe the systems aren't comparable, since they have more similarities than some people want to believe. Switch had more similarities with the n64 than it does with the 3ds stop it. You're a known troll. and I can not lie reportquote

Ben111 2 hours ago#46 I_like_BigButts posted... Ben111 posted... I_like_BigButts posted... Not everyone has upgraded to the XL or N3DS, either. It's more of a talking point to those who believe the systems aren't comparable, since they have more similarities than some people want to believe. Switch had more similarities with the n64 than it does with the 3ds stop it. You're a known troll. I'm the troll? Have you read your username mr.novice account? My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#47 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... The Switch screen is bigger than the 2DS screen. Yes, the 2DS is one screen. Even in handheld mode it will work. The WiiU game pad was smaller and pulled it off. This doesn't mean it works well. n00bsaib0t posted... Pockets have nothing to do with handheld. Plus the Switch is smaller than some phones. Pockets have everything to do with what it considered a dedicated handheld. GBA, PSP, Vita, 3DS, DS, heck even the GameGear...notice anything about them? They can all fit in your pocket. That's on purpose. n00bsaib0t posted... Really? "Go buy a device that can record more than 3 hours at once for me". f*** off. Lower your screen brightness, use headphones, turn on airplane mode. Boom. 4.5 hours on BOTW. Nope, you'll still get 3 hours or less. Game Gear is as portable as a switch.  So if you consider it portable so is the switch. I still have mine and theyre comparable in size. GG is a little bulkier. and I can not lie reportquote

I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#48 Ben111 posted... I_like_BigButts posted... Ben111 posted... I_like_BigButts posted... Not everyone has upgraded to the XL or N3DS, either. It's more of a talking point to those who believe the systems aren't comparable, since they have more similarities than some people want to believe. Switch had more similarities with the n64 than it does with the 3ds stop it. You're a known troll. I'm the troll? Have you read your username mr.novice account? What does my username and karma have to do with anything? You act like you weren't a new user. don't act like you didn't make these threads: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75346433 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75327400 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75251515 https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75828906 moronic beyond levels...for a guy who hates the switch, you sure are on there a lot trolling the f*** out of it. and I can not lie (edited 2 hours ago)reportquote

Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#49 There's a difference between portable and handheld. For a device to be portable, the only requirement is that it be able to be used without an external power source. For a device to be considered a handheld, it needs to be designed primarily to be held in someone's hands. The stand on the back of the Switch, as well as the fact that it's not primarily designed as either a handheld or home console, means that it's not a handheld. It is in fact a portable, however, which may be enough for some. Not for me, though. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#50 so you wouldn't consider the nomad a handheld? are you seriously bringing in the stand into it? and what about it can't be held in your hands? and I can not lie reportquote

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   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#51 I_like_BigButts posted... so you wouldn't consider the nomad a handheld? are you seriously bringing in the stand into it? and what about it can't be held in your hands? Is the nomad primarily designed to be held in someone's hands? I'm pretty sure it is. And yes, I'm bringing the stand into it. You don't release a device with a stand and then try to pass it off as a handheld, especially when it also tries to be a home console. That's not how it works. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." (edited 2 hours ago)reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#52 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... The Switch screen is bigger than the 2DS screen. Yes, the 2DS is one screen. Even in handheld mode it will work. The WiiU game pad was smaller and pulled it off. This doesn't mean it works well. n00bsaib0t posted... Pockets have nothing to do with handheld. Plus the Switch is smaller than some phones. Pockets have everything to do with what it considered a dedicated handheld. GBA, PSP, Vita, 3DS, DS, heck even the GameGear...notice anything about them? They can all fit in your pocket. That's on purpose. n00bsaib0t posted... Really? "Go buy a device that can record more than 3 hours at once for me". f*** off. Lower your screen brightness, use headphones, turn on airplane mode. Boom. 4.5 hours on BOTW. Nope, you'll still get 3 hours or less. It does. 2DS works just fine. It's the same size as the OG 3DS with it's two screens and larger than the DS with two screens. True handheld or dedicated handheld? Pick one. Dedicated? Obviously not. It's called the Switch for a reason. It is a true handheld, though, it's a built in function. A function that isn't impacted by pockets. And you clearly don't have one. You get 3 hours out of BOTW on the default brightness with volume and wifi turned on. Lowering those all increase the battery life (just like any device). I rarely use my Switch on my TV, I know how much battery life I get out of it. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#53 Zero_Maniac posted... Is the nomad primarily designed to be held in someone's hands? I'm pretty sure it is. last time I checked, so is the switch. docking is completely optional. And yes, I'm bringing the stand into it. You don't release a device with a stand and then try to pass it off as a handheld, especially when it also tries to be a home console. That's not how it works. lmao..says who? you? so this official product from nintendo: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Stand/dp/B0072B39BM would then turn your 3DS to a non-handheld by your logic..lol. and I can not lie reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#54 Ben111 posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Izzythewinner posted...  n00bsaib0t posted...  Izzythewinner posted...  Nope, this is not true. This is an assumption on your part, and what Nintendo wants you to think. Whenever paid online comes into play, the experience doesn't improve. Sony didn't improve their online when they made people pay for it. What makes you think Nintendo will? sony gave free games, cross purchases (somthing nintendo always failed to do), discounts, aswell as access to many services for paying subscriptions. so you are flat out wrong here. Several games were cross buy between WiiU and 3DS. You got a code to put in on the other systems eshop when you purchased. Explain how games being cross buy is Nintendo "always failing" to deliver on it?  Nintendo's service comes with a subscription to the retro game library. Sony makes you pay extra for PS Now.  Nintendo's has special eshop discounts as well.  Fact check yourself or STFU. Lol stop lying about cross purchases. thats a complete lie. they have several VC shops with the same games that have to be purchased multiple times ...i had to buy paper mario twice, once on the wii, and again on the wiiu. nintendo does not do cross purchases so think before you speak. https://www.nintendo.co.uk/Games/Wii-U-download-software/Mario-vs-Donkey-Kong-Tipping-Stars-893004.html  http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2015/01/shantae_and_the_piraters_curse_for_wii_u_and_3ds_eshop_releases_in_europe_and_australia_on_5th_february  Exactly like I f***ing said. Getting the same game on another console for 50% off is not a cross buy. And it was for Pal region only for shantea I forgot EU got hosed. It was cross buy in NA. Also Oli Oli and Severed are cross buy. Either way he said Nintendo always failed to deliver. I only needed one game to prove him wrong. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#55 n00bsaib0t posted... It does. 2DS works just fine. It's the same size as the OG 3DS with it's two screens and larger than the DS with two screens. What? We're talking about the Switch, not the 2DS. n00bsaib0t posted... True handheld or dedicated handheld? Pick one. Dedicated? Obviously not. It's called the Switch for a reason. It is a true handheld, though, it's a built in function. A function that isn't impacted by pockets. Okay, then people want a dedicated handheld, which by your own admission the Switch is not and the 3DS is. I_like_BigButts posted... last time I checked, so is the switch. docking is completely optional. No. As I said, it's not primarily designed as a handheld or console. Honestly, even Nintendo markets it as a console, not a handheld. I_like_BigButts posted... lmao..says who? you? so this official product from nintendo: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Stand/dp/B0072B39BM would then turn your 3DS to a non-handheld by your logic..lol. Says logic. No, that stand would not turn a 3DS into a non-handheld, because it's not a part of the system. That's an accessory. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#56 and the stand isn't an accessory? no one has to use the stand, just like you don't have to buy the 3ds one. you're really reaching with the stand bulls***. and I can not lie reportquote

   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#57 I_like_BigButts posted... and the stand isn't an accessory? no one has to use the stand, just like you don't have to buy the 3ds one. you're really reaching with the stand bulls***. Except the stand comes built into every Switch. It's a part of it. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." (edited 2 hours ago)reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#58 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... It does. 2DS works just fine. It's the same size as the OG 3DS with it's two screens and larger than the DS with two screens. What? We're talking about the Switch, not the 2DS. n00bsaib0t posted... True handheld or dedicated handheld? Pick one. Dedicated? Obviously not. It's called the Switch for a reason. It is a true handheld, though, it's a built in function. A function that isn't impacted by pockets. Okay, then people want a dedicated handheld, which by your own admission the Switch is not and the 3DS is. I_like_BigButts posted... last time I checked, so is the switch. docking is completely optional. No. As I said, it's not primarily designed as a handheld or console. Honestly, even Nintendo markets it as a console, not a handheld. I_like_BigButts posted... lmao..says who? you?  so this official product from nintendo: https://www.amazon.com/Nintendo-3DS-Stand/dp/B0072B39BM  would then turn your 3DS to a non-handheld by your logic..lol.  Says logic. No, that stand would not turn a 3DS into a non-handheld, because it's not a part of the system. That's an accessory. Logic dictates that if it works on the 2DS and the Switch screen is larger than the 2DS screen then it works better on the Switch than the 2DS. Problem is you aren't using logic. Why does it have to be dedicated, though? Switch has every handheld function the 3DS does, but was designed with video out in mind rather than as an afterthought. If the Switch isn't something people want because it's not "dedicated" explain 80 million PSP sales. Only the 1000 and E1000 models were "dedicated" while the 2000, 3000 and Go were not. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#59 Zero_Maniac posted... I_like_BigButts posted... and the stand isn't an accessory?  no one has to use the stand, just like you don't have to buy the 3ds one.  you're really reaching with the stand bulls***. Except the stand comes built into every Switch. It's a part of it. Devil's advocate on this one, I also thought you were talking about the Hori stand and not the built in kickstand. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#60 Zero_Maniac posted... I_like_BigButts posted... and the stand isn't an accessory? no one has to use the stand, just like you don't have to buy the 3ds one. you're really reaching with the stand bulls***. Except the stand comes built into every Switch. It's a part of it. it doesn't change anything about it's portability though or it being a handheld. For all intents and purposes you could call it an SD card protector since the SD slot is right under it. and I can not lie reportquote

   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#61 n00bsaib0t posted... Logic dictates that if it works on the 2DS and the Switch screen is larger than the 2DS screen then it works better on the Switch than the 2DS. Problem is you aren't using logic. The problem is, you have to factor in the size of both screens combined. 3.53" + 3.00" = 6.53", which is larger than the Switch's 6.2" screen. Looks like you're not using logic either. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." (edited 2 hours ago)reportquote

   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#62 n00bsaib0t posted... Only the 1000 and E1000 models were "dedicated" while the 2000, 3000 and Go were not. Except those models were in fact dedicated handhelds. The fact that you are able to do TV out with a separately sold accessory does not prevent a handheld from being dedicated. "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#63 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Only the 1000 and E1000 models were "dedicated" while the 2000, 3000 and Go were not. Except those models were in fact dedicated handhelds. The fact that you are able to do TV out with a separately sold accessory does not prevent a handheld from being dedicated. Then the Switch is dedicated despite the TV out. It's either dedicated with TV out or it's not. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#64 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Logic dictates that if it works on the 2DS and the Switch screen is larger than the 2DS screen then it works better on the Switch than the 2DS. Problem is you aren't using logic. The problem is, you have to factor in the size of both screens combined. 3.53" + 3.00" = 6.53", which is larger than the Switch's 6.2" screen. Looks like you're not using logic either. Set a 2DS on a Switch. The screen fits inside. Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   Zero_Maniac 2 hours ago#65 n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Only the 1000 and E1000 models were "dedicated" while the 2000, 3000 and Go were not. Except those models were in fact dedicated handhelds. The fact that you are able to do TV out with a separately sold accessory does not prevent a handheld from being dedicated. Then the Switch is dedicated despite the TV out. It's either dedicated with TV out or it's not. No, because the Switch's entire gimmick is that it's a home console that can be a portable. The TV out function is inherent with the parts of the device. No separate accessory needed. n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Logic dictates that if it works on the 2DS and the Switch screen is larger than the 2DS screen then it works better on the Switch than the 2DS. Problem is you aren't using logic. The problem is, you have to factor in the size of both screens combined. 3.53" + 3.00" = 6.53", which is larger than the Switch's 6.2" screen. Looks like you're not using logic either. Set a 2DS on a Switch. The screen fits inside. You realize that the 2DS has two screens...right? "Remember kid, there's heroes and there's legends. Heroes get remembered, but legends never die. Follow your heart kid, and you'll never go wrong." reportquote

   n00bsaib0t 2 hours ago#66 Zero_Maniac posted... n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted...  n00bsaib0t posted...  Only the 1000 and E1000 models were "dedicated" while the 2000, 3000 and Go were not. Except those models were in fact dedicated handhelds. The fact that you are able to do TV out with a separately sold accessory does not prevent a handheld from being dedicated. Then the Switch is dedicated despite the TV out. It's either dedicated with TV out or it's not. No, because the Switch's entire gimmick is that it's a home console that can be a portable. The TV out function is inherent with the parts of the device. No separate accessory needed. n00bsaib0t posted... Zero_Maniac posted...  n00bsaib0t posted...  Logic dictates that if it works on the 2DS and the Switch screen is larger than the 2DS screen then it works better on the Switch than the 2DS. Problem is you aren't using logic. The problem is, you have to factor in the size of both screens combined. 3.53" + 3.00" = 6.53", which is larger than the Switch's 6.2" screen. Looks like you're not using logic either. Set a 2DS on a Switch. The screen fits inside. You realize that the 2DS has two screens...right? The Switch needs a dock, the PSP needs cables. You can't just HDMI into the Switch. You can't even HDMI to USB C. An accessory is required. No, the 2DS has one screen. https://www.ifixit.com/Guide/Nintendo+2DS+Screen+Replacement/35845 Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahn reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 2 hours ago#67 the nomad also has a dedicated TV out..so wouldn't not be a handheld either? and I can not lie reportquote

   Atheistpanic 1 hour ago#68 ...it's all manufactured outrage. o_o Zealous fans polluting the message boards with these kind of topics, trying to steer public opinion. As far as I'm concerned, the Switch is one huge gimmick. f*** it. "I'd rather be hated for who I am, than loved for who I am not." ***Kurt Cobain*** (edited 1 hour ago)reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 1 hour ago#69 Atheistpanic posted... As far as I'm concerned, the Switch is one huge gimmick. f*** it. and a device with 2 screens, 1 being a touch screen, stereoscopic 3D, gyro controls, 2 cameras, a microphone and AR functionality isn't? and I can not lie (edited 1 hour ago)reportquote

   Ben111 1 hour ago#70 I_like_BigButts posted... Atheistpanic posted... As far as I'm concerned, the Switch is one huge gimmick. f*** it. and a device with 2 screens, 1 being a touch screen, stereoscopic 3D, gyro controls, 2 cameras, a microphone and AR functionality isn't? So all smartphones are gimmicky? My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 1 hour ago#71 Ben111 posted... So all smartphones are gimmicky? yeah...and? it's cute how tried and failed spin it. you're the guy who can't even f***ing add or do math. and I can not lie (edited 1 hour ago)reportquote

   yokitaqueen0220 1 hour ago#72 Why does it matter? After all I have seen plenty of posts claiming that it is a success without those of us not sold on the idea of it. Also all those extra things like games and deals Sony offers you now with mandatory online is s*** compared to when they were using it as a means to entice people to pay for it as an optional service. I don’t particularly care since I don’t do multiplayer but you can tell the difference. On the other hand if I do get a Switch and I want to trade Pokémon I will have to pay extra. Which annoys me. Especially since Nintendo’s online is s***. Really a VC service, did they mention anything about a system that doesn’t force you to system transfer if you want to use your digital purchases on a different system? Because I feel if not than they are prioritizing the wrong s*** for online. Okay reportquote

   Ben111 1 hour ago#73 I_like_BigButts posted... Ben111 posted... So all smartphones are gimmicky? yeah...and? it's cute how tried and failed spin it. you're the guy who can't even f***ing add or do math. Wow don't you love trying to put other people down. To bad you aren't verry good at it. Classic troll move. I can do Calculus, you? My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 56 minutes ago#74 you can do calculus but not simple math? If that were this case, this idiotic thread wouldn't exist: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75828906 because anyone with basic math knows how s***ty your attempt at a troll thread it was. I'm the troll, yet you've had numerous stupid f***ing threads on a system you don't have or like. right. and I can not lie reportquote

   Ben111 51 minutes ago#75 I_like_BigButts posted... you can do calculus but not simple math? If that were this case, this idiotic thread wouldn't exist: https://www.gamefaqs.com/boards/189706-nintendo-switch/75828906 because anyone with basic math knows how s***ty your attempt at a troll thread it was. I'm the troll, yet you've had numerous stupid f***ing threads on a system you don't have or like. right. I like the switch as a system. It has flaws yes but I am mostly angry at how Nintendo is handling the switch(paid online). Also The link you posted is correct as stated by nintendo's own website. I am looking forward to getting mario odyssey and the switch this Christmas but I am still angry about the greed of the paid online. Also your name and posts make it obvious you are a troll My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 (edited 39 minutes ago)reportquote

   I_like_BigButts 45 minutes ago#76 Ben111 posted... I like the switch as a system. It has flaws yes but I am mistly angry at how Nintendo is handling the switch(paid online). Also The link you posted is correct as stated by nintendo's own website. I am looking forward to getting mario odyssey and the switch this Christmas but I am still angry about the greed of the paid online. Also your name and posts make it obvious you are a troll the f*** does my user name have to do with anything, troll? Point out which of my posts are trolling. Unlike you, where it's apparent you troll a board for a system you don't even f***ing own. Yeah their paid online is dumb, that much we agree on. your moronic thread isn't truthful either. You're basing it on 1 month. let me repeat that 1 month. No person who can add would do it on a month by month basis like you stupidly assumed in that thread. and I can not lie reportquote

   Ben111 36 minutes ago#77 I_like_BigButts posted... Ben111 posted... I like the switch as a system. It has flaws yes but I am mistly angry at how Nintendo is handling the switch(paid online). Also The link you posted is correct as stated by nintendo's own website. I am looking forward to getting mario odyssey and the switch this Christmas but I am still angry about the greed of the paid online. Also your name and posts make it obvious you are a troll the f*** does my user name have to do with anything, troll? Point out which of my posts are trolling. Unlike you, where it's apparent you troll a board for a system you don't even f***ing own. Yeah their paid online is dumb, that much we agree on. your moronic thread isn't truthful either. You're basing it on 1 month. let me repeat that 1 month. No person who can add would do it on a month by month basis like you stupidly assumed in that thread. How was my post untruthful? All I did was stat the fact that Nintendo is charging 4$ a month for their online as stated in their offical website. My 3ds friend code is 2852-7795-4118 reportquote

   Second_Chances 30 minutes ago#78 if people embrace a poorly designed handheld we'll keep getting poorly designed handhelds reportquote

   LuigiFan835 18 minutes ago#79 @Izzythewinner posted... the 3ds is immensely a dated peice of hardware... the switch seems to do everything vastly better, i love my 3ds, but i feel like its time is at an end, what with the switch being a completely superior handheld, capable of giving multiplayer on the go and many more other facts as to why its true. 1.Paid online its to be expected. you are going to get a better service if its paid. the online to 3ds or any handheld up to this point has been complete trash, not to mention in most cases, anything worth getting ended up as a microtransaction anyways. (although MH was always free content somehow) 2.Games are 50% more expensive more like 25-30%... most 3ds games are 40$ and switch games are 60$, and besides, switch games double up as console games too, so honestly i say this is a great trade off in the switchs' favor. 3.No dual screens good freaking riddence. it was gimmicky crap like that, which was preventing games from getting multiplatform releases in the first place.since the switch doesnt have that crap, we can expect to see more multiplatform games. 1 screen always worked in the past with every other gaming device, i doubt the loss of one will be a problem. and besides, the constant closing and opening of "clamshell" portables wear down the hinges over time, causing the top screen to get flappy and frayed. so farewell to that flawed design. 4.Not a fully available touch screen well thats just simply wrong so no need to comment here. 5.Console is 300$ and new 3ds handhelds are 50$ less then that.. considering all the features you get from the switch (console style graphics, couch multiplayer, better everything pretty much) i would say crying about the 50$ more is a joke argument, and you are using this as a desperate excuse, unless u are that cheap. 6.Greedy Paid online you already mentioned this in your first bullet point... refer to what i said in the first response. 3DS had built in voice chat for some games. Also s you could send in-game messages to each other in some games. Far better than Splatoon 2’s management of it The 2 screens didn’t prevent multiplats from being released, it was the low power. Hell, the multiplats that did use the second screen mostly didn’t make notable use of it. The hinge wearing down takes a really long time. The two screens were nice because they allowed you to have options or a map on the bottom screen while not cluttering the main screen or putting it in the pause menu. Not sure why you can’t see the as an advantage He’s not wrong about the touch screen. It’s inaccesible during docked mode. Actually, the New 3DS XL is $200, not $250. And the 2DS is like $100. Huge difference, not just $50. Stop making s*** up to support your agenda. Also, the battery life on Switch is terrible. Oh yeah, and the games save on the console rather than the cartridges 3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123 "Mario and Luigi Paper Jam is better then Paper Mario TTYD" -SeamusOHassey (edited 15 minutes ago)reportquote

   1. Boards
   2. Nintendo 3DS 
   3. why does the idea of replacing the 3ds completely with the Switch upset people?