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Are you reluctant of Metroid Prime 4 not being developed by Retro Studios

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or would you still give in a shot when it releases in the future(around 2018-2019)?
No
It is tanabes vision of perfection that made metroid prime
Not retro studios
ecylis 4 days ago#3
Most of the talent behind the series has since left Retro anyway

If it looks good I'll buy it. If not I'll be disappointed and save my money
Rolfin 4 days ago#4
I'm more intrigued than I am worried

I mean, sure, the new Dev could fuck it all up, but a fresh face could be just what the franchise needs. We'll find out eventually
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Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.
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As long as the game turns out to be good I really don't care who does it. And I'm certain that someone out there can make better Metroid's than Retro even.
@TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.

You can keep telling yourself this 20 times over and it will never be true.

NOTHING about switch parallels wii u
It is like 3ds and will always be

Besides that metroid prime 4 will be the absolute best game of the generation, far better than all others and the standard for which every other game will be judged
TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.


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The game started development at least last summer when federation force came out
Possibly even when blast ball came out since it was under a different team

The reason that showed a logo is because it obviously has betas which exist but nintendo just do not want to show them

So if you are going to pull development periods out of thin air at least get the production start date right

It will be delayed until 2019 at the worst case scenario
rusty12000 4 days ago#10
Not worried at all. Nintendo will make sure it's great before it's released.
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TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.


Wow, for a nintendo fan you sure do salivate over anything negative about nintendo.

"Enjoy it while you can", you sound like a cartoon villian.
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quickposter 4 days ago#12
TalesRevenant is another typical Sony pony who can't accept that not everybody wants to follow their line of thinking. Sony fanboys are like the communists. They can't enjoy what they have and must spit on the others for their flaws like they have it so much better but ignore that on its own library on its 3 year run it is the worst console Sony have released.

This why nobody likes you lot and say you are the worst.

Because you can't get through your heads that different people like different things and we will never cow down and stand in line with you lot.

I seriously hope the X kicks PS4 out of the park because you fools = Switch and Xbox are also good systems!

Deal with it already ponies. Sony will always have competition. Wishing death on Nintendo and MS is never going to change this fact because even if they die somebody else will rise from their ashes.
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Well, I dunno what to expect. I hope they do a good job, but I'm not hating them because they've not proven themselves as capable Metroid Prime devs yet. As for Retro... I kinda doubt they're still capable of creating good Metroid Prime games. MP1 is amazing. MP2 is excellent, but not as good. MP3 is good, but worse than the 1st 2 games despite having great motion controls. As you can see, they just went downhill.
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Retro Studios isn't even the same development studio anymore, really. The only thing that have been necessarily better about having them make it is that they should have the easiest access to all of the assets from the old Metroid Prime titles for reference.
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supremeblaster posted...
TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.


Wow, for a nintendo fan you sure do salivate over anything negative about nintendo.

"Enjoy it while you can", you sound like a cartoon villian.

he basically is a cartoon villain

it's cute!
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Spaced92 4 days ago#16
I don't care, as if they'd even employ most of the original Metroid Prime team.
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asbsand 4 days ago#17
Yes. Kensuke Tanabe is a very outspoken guy about what he envisions for the series and last time he spoke about what he wanted to do all I could think was "fuck me, that sounds so dumb."

He really thinks there's some expecation of an ongoing canon where Sylux is Samus's longtime rival or something and he just does not. get. storytelling at all. It's going to be lame.
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BoganZ 4 days ago#18
I think it's a good thing. I like Prime but it doesn't quite click with me like the 2D games do. Maybe a new take on it will change how I feel about the game. I am excited to see how it differs from the others.
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JMBoote 4 days ago#19
TalesRevenant posted...
They literally just had a stock logo and stock music.


It was the Metroid logo and the main menu theme from Metroid Prime. How is any of that "stock"? You can't just throw buzzwords out there and hope it sticks, y'know. 

On topic, as said, Retro isn't even comprised of the same people around when Prime was being made, now. And for those worried because the team will be new, remember that Metroid Prime was Retro's first actual game, and it was thanks to outside recommendations that they cancelled all of their other projects to give 100% of their focus towards Prime. The unease is expected, but keep these points in mind.
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BladeManEXE 4 days ago#20
I'll worry if they start showing gameplay and it looks bad.

JMBoote posted...
On topic, as said, Retro isn't even comprised of the same people around when Prime was being made, now.

I've heard people say this several times now, but I've only ever read about three people who left to start Armature Studios.
BladeManEXE posted...
I'll worry if they start showing gameplay and it looks bad.

JMBoote posted...
On topic, as said, Retro isn't even comprised of the same people around when Prime was being made, now.

I've heard people say this several times now, but I've only ever read about three people who left to start Armature Studios.

I know at least some of their art team went to 343, which is why some of the art direction of Halo 4 had a nice Prime vibe to it.
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Solid Sonic 4 days ago#22
Kind of.

I hope they have the right idea behind what made the series magical.
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Usabell 4 days ago#23
ecylis posted...
Most of the talent behind the series has since left Retro anyway

If it looks good I'll buy it. If not I'll be disappointed and save my money
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JMBoote 4 days ago#24
BladeManEXE posted...
I'll worry if they start showing gameplay and it looks bad.

JMBoote posted...
On topic, as said, Retro isn't even comprised of the same people around when Prime was being made, now.

I've heard people say this several times now, but I've only ever read about three people who left to start Armature Studios.


It's not completely devoid of people that may have worked on the series, I'm guessing. But it's pretty well known that some have left. It's kind of in the middle. So even if Retro were the ones behind Metroid Prime 4, it probably would have been noticable, since those people are no longer there.
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BladeManEXE 4 days ago#25
JMBoote posted...
BladeManEXE posted...
I'll worry if they start showing gameplay and it looks bad.

JMBoote posted...
On topic, as said, Retro isn't even comprised of the same people around when Prime was being made, now.

I've heard people say this several times now, but I've only ever read about three people who left to start Armature Studios.


It's not completely devoid of people that may have worked on the series, I'm guessing. But it's pretty well known that some have left. It's kind of in the middle. So even if Retro were the ones behind Metroid Prime 4, it probably would have been noticable, since those people are no longer there.

That's kind of what I'm saying, though. It's supposedly "well known" that a lot of people left, but I've never really seen the evidence. As I said, I've seen the evidence for the Armature Studios trio, and Steel_Shadows says "some of the art team" left to join 343. And researching the latter, I found mention of only one guy who did so, as well as another guy who left to work at Id Studios. Altogether that makes five people who left that I can find information on. Not really good, I guess, but I can't imagine it's the significant change people make it out to be for a studio with dozens of employees.
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cdgatto 4 days ago#26
There's nothing better than watching Tales get absolutely wrecked in every thread he posts in. You'd think he'd get tired of it at some point.
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TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.


Most likely, Pokémon is Holiday 2019. They'll want a game for the 25th anniversary in 2021 (possibly a 2nd version of Gen 8), with the Diamond/Pearl remakes Holiday 2020 (14 years after the Japanese release). Red/Blue remakes were 8 years after Japanese release, Gold/Silver remakes were 10 years after Japanese release, & Ruby/Sapphire remakes were 12 years after Japanese release. See a pattern?

As for Metroid Prime 4, I say they shock us with a Holiday 2018 release date. What else do they have for next holiday?
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Cozy 4 days ago#28
I won't deny that there is a possibility Metroid Prime 4 will be delayed, but not for the reasons Tales is no negative about.

Anyways, I heard Tanabe was also behind Metroid Prime Hunters, and that game was actually very good for what it did on DS. So I'm not super worried about Prime 4.

What does worry me, however, is that the Switch itself does not have pointer controls, so we'll most likely be given the option to use motion controls or the right stick to aim. Which blows, because using the wii remote pointer was vastly superior. Instead, pointing got left behind while motion controls stayed in with the Switch.
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The_DOAM 4 days ago#29
Snoopdawwg22 posted...
TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.


Most likely, Pokémon is Holiday 2019. They'll want a game for the 25th anniversary in 2021 (possibly a 2nd version of Gen 8), with the Diamond/Pearl remakes Holiday 2020 (14 years after the Japanese release). Red/Blue remakes were 8 years after Japanese release, Gold/Silver remakes were 10 years after Japanese release, & Ruby/Sapphire remakes were 12 years after Japanese release. See a pattern?

As for Metroid Prime 4, I say they shock us with a Holiday 2018 release date. What else do they have for next holiday?

I wouldn't take him too seriously he is either trolling or new to Nintendo

Nintendo likes to reveal and release the same year when they can or the year after. There not like other companies that will show footage year after year. They even got a company like Ubisoft to hold of announcing Mario and Rabbids early. When we do get a decent trailer it will release that holiday season unless they do a delay like RDR 2 has currently done.
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BosSBaer 4 days ago#30
A little bit.
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AltOmega 4 days ago#31
I'm more of a 2D purist so for what it's worth I'm not too worried. 

Titanfail2017 posted...
tanabes vision of perfection

Let's not forget that he was also the mind behind Federation Force.
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Littlefoot 4 days ago#32
In a way, yes. Having almost beat the first Prime recently, Retro showed that they were extremely talented at capturing what makes Metroid great. A new studio sounds like a risk, but at the same time it can also end up breahting fresh air into the franchise.
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Lil_Bit83 4 days ago#33
Nope. I don't even like Retro. Will the new company botch it? Maybe. Will it be a good game? Maybe. We'll just wait and see.
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BladeManEXE posted...
That's kind of what I'm saying, though. It's supposedly "well known" that a lot of people left, but I've never really seen the evidence. As I said, I've seen the evidence for the Armature Studios trio, and Steel_Shadows says "some of the art team" left to join 343. And researching the latter, I found mention of only one guy who did so, as well as another guy who left to work at Id Studios. Altogether that makes five people who left that I can find information on. Not really good, I guess, but I can't imagine it's the significant change people make it out to be for a studio with dozens of employees.

Only one guy eh? Welp.
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james259 4 days ago#35
Yeah I've always been curious how many people left Retro and how much is just reassurance. This is definitely my most hyped game for the next two years so I hope it's in good hands. 

Just follow what made the first triology so great (story, exploration, boss fights) and don't put in any repetive gimmicks and we should be fine.
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TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019.

We're talking about Metroid Prime 4 not Kingdom Hearts III
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Tadamoto18 4 days ago#37
Why does TalesRevenant even come to the nintendo boards? He's nothing but an irritating troll. Literally everything he posts is a jab against nintendo. He's on my ignore list. But I still see his stupid posts when you guys quote him.
Juggernaut480 4 days ago#38
cdgatto posted...
There's nothing better than watching Tales get absolutely wrecked in every thread he posts in. You'd think he'd get tired of it at some point.

I never understood such a huge hate boner Tales has for Nintendo yet he wastes the majority of his life and spare time on this board just to vomit out un-contributing crap.
Torgo 4 days ago#39
Juggernaut480 posted...
cdgatto posted...
There's nothing better than watching Tales get absolutely wrecked in every thread he posts in. You'd think he'd get tired of it at some point.

I never understood such a huge hate boner Tales has for Nintendo yet he wastes the majority of his life and spare time on this board just to vomit out un-contributing crap.


It's also sad that he seems to be some kind of JRPG fan, but he cuts himself off from any Nintendo developed or published JRPGs with his strange bias. Console fanboyism is sad in that people will limit themselves in what they will enjoy out of some weird loyalty for or against a company.
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Zack_Attackv1 21 hours ago#40
Considering they were starting to lose their luster by the time Corruption rolled out, no.
Banjo2553 21 hours ago#41
Not really. Besides, the team that made the first Prime aren't part of Retro anymore, and Prime 2 & 3 turned out fine.
PlayableRidley 20 hours ago#42
It's a little worrying, but I'm willing to give the new team the benefit of the doubt.

I honestly don't think it should be that hard to make a good Metroid Prime game. Unlike, say, Sonic, this is one series where pretty much everyone is in agreement about what the series should be. All you have to do is take the original trilogy and do the same thing, but bigger and better.

The problem with the last two games, and the reason I don't entirely trust Nintendo with Metroid anymore, is that they keep trying to do random stupid shit instead of just making the game everyone actually wants.
Nah, Retro deserves the chance to try and make an original IP.
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VeiledGenesis 17 hours ago#44
Titanfail2017 posted...
@TalesRevenant posted...
Oh it ain't coming out next year or 2019. You are kidding yourself. They literally just had a stock logo and stock music. That game just started development. And Pokemon didn't even have either a logo or music. Both of those are 2020 games.

2017-2020 - 3-4 year proper development cycle for AAA games.

Better enjoy 2017 while you can because starting next year it'll be like Wii U all over again.

You can keep telling yourself this 20 times over and it will never be true.

NOTHING about switch parallels wii u
It is like 3ds and will always be

Besides that metroid prime 4 will be the absolute best game of the generation, far better than all others and the standard for which every other game will be judged

Wow, you two are both incredibly delusional.
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Vidgmchtr 17 hours ago#45
What I'd like to see is simply another game in the series in the style of Prime.

If Prime 4 is still a first-person adventure but has a completely new story that has no focus on Phazon and Dark Samus as an antagonist whatsoever, I'll be happy with whatever it is.

It should also answer what happened with Corruption's ending, however. That was Sylux's ship from Hunters, correct? Let's see what's going on with that.
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MegaButterfree 17 hours ago#46
Not really. As long as the new devs know what they're doing, understand the series, & are capable of making it good then that's all that really matters.
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