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You think Metroid's bad? Just look at how they'll abuse amiibos with the next FE

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21_21 1 day ago#1
I can already see it. Bunch of units are not playable without amiibos of those units, not just the standard Marth, Roy, etc amiibos. Hell, even support conversations will not be viewable without amiibos. Besides making amiibos based off of characters, Nintendo will produce new amiibos in the shape of support conversations.

Oh you want these two units to have a child? Better get a child amiibo, because marriage won't help you have kids anymore.

Considering how Fire Emblem has so much more to abuse amiibos with than Metroid, Metroid's BS will look like a saintly move compared to all this.
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Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.
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Hop103 1 day ago#3
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.
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Hop103 posted...
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.



TBH, I was surprised that S/M didn't have amiibo functionality. I will be just as surprised if USUM doesn't (okay, a little less so, because mid generation). Maybe since the franchise literally prints money both through the games and merchandising already, they haven't bothered. 

I'd drop future Pokemon games if they because the sort of blind-boxed nightmare that the card game is. Can you imagine if the only way to get certain legendaries was through blind-boxed amiibo cards with a super high rarity? Kudos to GameFreak for not doing this (yet, anyway...), 'cause I betcha Nintendo asked them to.
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21_21 posted...
Oh you want these two units to have a child? Better get a child amiibo, because marriage won't help you have kids anymore.

Given how many people seem to complain about the kids in Fire Emblem, I'm sure they'll cite this as a positive.
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VGManiac456 1 day ago#7
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.

The best case scenario for everyone (if this happened that is) would be to make an amiibo-series of TCG cards (like the e-Series of TCG over a decade ago), and have the content unlocked immediately when using them. These could be harder to obtain Pokemon (ie: Beldum, Feebas, starters, etc), various items (vitamins, berries, potions), and under smaller numbers, shiny Pokemon. Maybe even some special outfits. They might consider event cards as well, but I'd imagine they'd release the event later wirelessly like they've done with the Mega Stones recently for Sun/Moon to avoid as much backlash as possible.
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@Hop103 posted...
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.

Someone doesn't remember the E-reader! Also that's a silly comparison.
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21_21 posted...
Nintendo will produce new amiibos in the shape of support conversations..


lmao
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Hop103 1 day ago#10
AsunaSAOYuuki posted...
@Hop103 posted...
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.

Someone doesn't remember the E-reader! Also that's a silly comparison.


The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game, and was made in a time where mobile tier business practices didn't exist. Gamefreak and Nintendo today could easily go the Mobage route and make those cards a requirement to enjoy the game fully and worse yet, you'll have lots of sheeple defending their decision to the death despite most people ending up being pissed off.
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Gladiant 1 day ago#11
The problem isn't the price for those Amiibo but the stock. Most of them are impossible to find and most people have to resolve to pirate them to use in game.
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Hop103 posted...
The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game

Someone doesn't remember the extremely rare SMB3 cards with exclusive new levels locked on them
Surely you jestin'
21_21 1 day ago#13
Gladiant posted...
The problem isn't the price for those Amiibo but the stock. Most of them are impossible to find and most people have to resolve to pirate them to use in game.


The stock shortage is not the only problem. Hell, it would be the only problem if they were just figurines. The DLC's locked behind each of the amiibos are a problem, too. Thus, with the upcoming Metroid Samus Returns Fusion costumes, since it requires amiibos, you're basically paying 15 dollars to use a Fusion costume. That's bullshit if you ask me.

And it's gotten to a point where nearly every Nintendo Direct they're announcing a new amiibo. It's basically Nintendo announcing new DLCs but without them calling it DLCs.

It's even shittier than already shitty DLC practices in other games because despite how shitty said DLCs are, at least everyone has access to them. Not enough people have access to amiibos to begin with, so not everyone can access Nintendo DLCs.
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Salogy 1 day ago#14
Amiibo isn't DLC. You can't borrow, sell, or trade DLC. You can just borrow amiibo from a friend if you're that adamant on not buying any. Don't tell me that amiibo are hard to buy either. All my amiibo I bought at retail prices except 3 of the smash amiibo, which I imported at a decent price.
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Salogy posted...
Amiibo isn't DLC. You can't borrow, sell, or trade DLC. You can just borrow amiibo from a friend if you're that adamant on not buying any. Don't tell me that amiibo are hard to buy either. All my amiibo I bought at retail prices except 3 of the smash amiibo, which I imported at a decent price.

They are hard to find when they are limited to online retailers. Fucking corrin player 2 amiibo.
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MushroomMuncher posted...
Hop103 posted...
The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game

Someone doesn't remember the extremely rare SMB3 cards with exclusive new levels locked on them

You also needed it to fight some optional trainers in RSE, IIRC.
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Salogy 1 day ago#17
BinBinricecake posted...
Salogy posted...
Amiibo isn't DLC. You can't borrow, sell, or trade DLC. You can just borrow amiibo from a friend if you're that adamant on not buying any. Don't tell me that amiibo are hard to buy either. All my amiibo I bought at retail prices except 3 of the smash amiibo, which I imported at a decent price.

They are hard to find when they are limited to online retailers. Fucking corrin player 2 amiibo.


Nintendo reprints all of the exclusive amiibo. Correct me if I am wrong but male Corrin and female Corrin amiibo have the same functionality. Amazon always puts up amiibo around the same time. I was able to purchase one and I don't think Corrin P2 was prime locked.
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Salogy 1 day ago#18
NeonDragon9000 posted...
MushroomMuncher posted...
Hop103 posted...
The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game

Someone doesn't remember the extremely rare SMB3 cards with exclusive new levels locked on them

You also needed it to fight some optional trainers in RSE, IIRC.


If we're talking about Pokemon, then the Enigma berry was locked to a copy of Ruby or Sapphire that had already unlocked one of the eReader berries. You had to transfer a Pokemon into gen 4 that was holding an eReader berry. That berry would morph into the Enigma berry in gen 4. This was before they made the Enigma Berry a reward on one of the Gamecube Pokemon games. In later generations, they distributed the Enigma Berry the same way they distributed other event berries.
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Salogy posted...
Amiibo isn't DLC. You can't borrow, sell, or trade DLC. You can just borrow amiibo from a friend if you're that adamant on not buying any. Don't tell me that amiibo are hard to buy either. All my amiibo I bought at retail prices except 3 of the smash amiibo, which I imported at a decent price.
You do know most amiibo-unlockables are already in the game?
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Hirokey123 1 day ago#20
irulethegalaxy posted...
Hop103 posted...
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.



TBH, I was surprised that S/M didn't have amiibo functionality. I will be just as surprised if USUM doesn't (okay, a little less so, because mid generation). Maybe since the franchise literally prints money both through the games and merchandising already, they haven't bothered. 

I'd drop future Pokemon games if they because the sort of blind-boxed nightmare that the card game is. Can you imagine if the only way to get certain legendaries was through blind-boxed amiibo cards with a super high rarity? Kudos to GameFreak for not doing this (yet, anyway...), 'cause I betcha Nintendo asked them to.


Notice the sheer lack of amiibo for pokemon? It's because pokemon company is the one who gets the main say and they are super stingy about any pokemon merchandise. It was actually a struggle to get the okay for just the pokemon smash amiibo.
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Gogo726 1 day ago#22
It wouldn't be so bad if scalpers left Amiibo alone and Nintendo could produce enough.
Hop103 posted...
AsunaSAOYuuki posted...
@Hop103 posted...
irulethegalaxy posted...
Wait until Gamefreak starts adding amiibo cards.


Then I'll be through with Pokemon, that would be bullshit on the level of Mobage Idolm@ster titles.

Someone doesn't remember the E-reader! Also that's a silly comparison.


The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game, and was made in a time where mobile tier business practices didn't exist. Gamefreak and Nintendo today could easily go the Mobage route and make those cards a requirement to enjoy the game fully and worse yet, you'll have lots of sheeple defending their decision to the death despite most people ending up being pissed off.

No more than fusion mode. The U.S. had a whole area blocked off because the E Reader wasn't popular over there. What's the difference? None. Now shut up and keep buying Pokemon games.
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21_21 1 day ago#24
Salogy posted...
Amiibo isn't DLC. You can't borrow, sell, or trade DLC. You can just borrow amiibo from a friend if you're that adamant on not buying any. Don't tell me that amiibo are hard to buy either. All my amiibo I bought at retail prices except 3 of the smash amiibo, which I imported at a decent price.


My do you seem to live in a perfect world. The reality, not everyone unfortunately is as fortunate as you. If there's no one nearby that has said amiibo, then yer shit outta luck, my friend.

Also, I don't give a shit if my friend has all the amiibo that I can use. That's not the point. It doesn't matter whether all it takes is to put the toy in n'out and boom, we unlock it in game. It's about principle. Nintendo is now starting to normalize locking contents in their own games when they use to bash said practice. People were justifiably angry at companies like Capcom for locking DLC content in-disk and what Nintendo is doing isn't exactly any different now. As if that wasn't bad enough, at least everyone who bought Street FIghter V can access the DLCs if they pay. With NIntenod's BS of limited supply, they can't even do that.
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lol @ amiibo isn't DLC. It is first and foremost DLC.
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BinBinricecake 19 hours ago#26
IrateGameFAQer posted...
lol @ amiibo isn't DLC. It is first and foremost DLC.

What?
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SeamusOHassey 19 hours ago#27
BinBinricecake posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...
lol @ amiibo isn't DLC. It is first and foremost DLC.

What?

I think he's laughing at someone who thought amiibos weren't DLC when they really are.
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Hop103 posted...
The E-Reader was not required to enjoy a game,

Gee I wonder why I enjoyed the first 3 Battle Network games quite a bit more than the later 3...
Hoozah123 4 hours ago#29
I kinda want the Amiibo functionality in it for Sun and Moon. Just think. We could get costume from the Amiibo we have. Mario Outfit, Samus Outfit, Pikachu Outfit. Just about any outfit depending on what Amiibo we use.
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