With X1X & PS4 Pro still behind PC, how will the Switch save console gaming?

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3. With X1X & PS4 Pro still behind PC, how will the Switch save console gaming?

raulgarcia2 1 week ago#1 Nintendo has tapped into the mobile market and thus created something unique. Something that garners the interests of kiddies who play their mobile phones all the time, something that gets the teenagers who enjoys portable party games It is true that console gaming has become stale over the years. The console games don't feature the timeless gameplay that PC games have in LoL, Dota, Overwatch, etc. Games that are best played on PC and not gimped by console controls. The PS4, X1, and Wii U are simply inferior PCs.  Handhelds can still leave a foothold in the gaming industry, and especially one you can reliably dock to the big screen. When popular streaming apps show up on Switch, it'll be so much easier to stream on a Switch both dock and tabletop.  Sadly 4k is still niche, and for those who want 4k kicks, PC does everything better than the X1X and PS4 pro to accomplish that.  people including MS understand that Hololens is just not ready right now to make a breakthrough, while PS brand VR is cheap but low quality compared to the other higher quality brands you can play on PC. These technologies are still trying to make a breakthrugh. Tl;Dr: Portability is making a breakthrough. X1X and PS are not innovating enough and will always be behind PC my invention: fin no far tan sea quote

MirageMew2 1 week ago#2 X1X is the closest to a PC-console experience you can find for its price in the market... You will never find a PC build that can do everything the X1X can do for the same price or lower. Switch: 4741-1296-0325|3DS: 0490-5525-7337 "Boy, and I thought the characters in Arms were reaching." - SaviorGabriel (edited 1 week ago)quote

KJP3 1 week ago#3 I think they're both doing great.. Switch isn't saving anything, it's unique and interesting but no. PC obviously isn't gonna make consoles go Extinct, there will be a PS5 and an Xbox 720/2/Y/whatever. A large majority of casual gamers will never buy or even look into buying a PC. All my friends are casuals, you should see their faces when I tried explaining resolution and frames per second. Consoles will never die because of those kinds of people The Earth is flat and Dinosaurs were made up to discourage time travel. quote

Rolfin 1 week ago#4 By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. "LAN's not dead... just dormant." quote

PhyreEmblem23 1 week ago#5 KJP3 posted... I think they're both doing great.. Switch isn't saving anything, it's unique and interesting but no. PC obviously isn't gonna make consoles go Extinct, there will be a PS5 and an Xbox 720/2/Y/whatever. A large majority of casual gamers will never buy or even look into buying a PC. All my friends are casuals, you should see their faces when I tried explaining resolution and frames per second. Consoles will never die because of those kinds of people Elitist much? Not sure why they're your friends. Also, there's good reason to buy a console over a computer for gaming: the latter is just too much of a hassle for most people who just want the "management" mainstreamed. I don't use a PC for current gaming, but I play emulators up through the Wii/PS3 era. Emulating games takes some work to get running, managing files, setting up a controller (multiple times if it's shared with an actual console, hooking up to an HDMI if you want to play it on a TV, and customizing the performance. I understand actual PC gaming can e as simple as popping a disc in and pressing start, but: how will they play it on their living room tv with ease if it's a desktop PC? Don't you think the individual performance requirements for each game (locate on the box of each game) rightfully scare off a lot of people who don't understand such stuff? At the end of the day, most people play video games to relax; the hassle PC gaming can bring is anything but relaxing for most people. And this consoles will always be a thing. quote

Faiyez 1 week ago#6 raulgarcia2 posted... The console games don't feature the timeless gameplay that PC games have in LoL, Dota, Overwatch, etc. Somebody please give this a double-take and tell me TC isn't undermining his propagandist cause rather than strengthen it. I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR! -GlowStormLion on Japan's kinks. quote

KJP3 1 week ago#7 PhyreEmblem23 posted... KJP3 posted... I think they're both doing great.. Switch isn't saving anything, it's unique and interesting but no. PC obviously isn't gonna make consoles go Extinct, there will be a PS5 and an Xbox 720/2/Y/whatever. A large majority of casual gamers will never buy or even look into buying a PC. All my friends are casuals, you should see their faces when I tried explaining resolution and frames per second. Consoles will never die because of those kinds of people Elitist much? Not sure why they're your friends. Also, there's good reason to buy a console over a computer for gaming: the latter is just too much of a hassle for most people who just want the "management" mainstreamed. I don't use a PC for current gaming, but I play emulators up through the Wii/PS3 era. Emulating games takes some work to get running, managing files, setting up a controller (multiple times if it's shared with an actual console, hooking up to an HDMI if you want to play it on a TV, and customizing the performance. I understand actual PC gaming can e as simple as popping a disc in and pressing start, but: how will they play it on their living room tv with ease if it's a desktop PC? Don't you think the individual performance requirements for each game (locate on the box of each game) rightfully scare off a lot of people who don't understand such stuff? At the end of the day, most people play video games to relax; the hassle PC gaming can bring is anything but relaxing for most people. And this consoles will always be a thing. @PhyreEmblem23 sorry I didn't mean it like that lol, I don't even have a PC. The way you described why consoles are less of a problem is kinda what I was referring to. I didn't really notice how I worded it The Earth is flat and Dinosaurs were made up to discourage time travel. quote

raulgarcia2 (Topic Creator)1 week ago#8 Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. my invention: fin no far tan sea quote

Karmic Dragon2003 1 week ago#9 Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. CreviceCretin - Mario games are for little kids grow up and kill something. ^ 213 people agree that it's ignorance at its finest. quote

amerk 1 week ago#10 Switch divides the console market in a good way. Not everybody games the same way, or enjoys the same types of genres and styles. For those who want something hardcore, realistic, dark and mature - they have plenty on XB1, and PS4. For those who want something casual, game-driven, and light-hearted, or want something that's similar to the classic types of games (indies, platforms, top down 2d adventures) - they now have the Switch. And for those who prefer a mixture of both, well most people these days have more than one console on hand and can pick and choose which games to support for whichever console they own. quote

UncleEye 1 week ago#11 You know, years ago, a few months before the PS4 launch, a co-worker was telling me how consoles and hand-held systems were going the way of the dodo bird, and the Ipad was going to revolutionize gaming for the masses. He read this on the internet of course. Old man Punk Rock Gamer since 1977. quote

amerk 1 week ago#12 UncleEye posted... You know, years ago, a few months before the PS4 launch, a co-worker was telling me how consoles and hand-held systems were going the way of the dodo bird, and the Ipad was going to revolutionize gaming for the masses. He read this on the internet of course. People said the same about tablets years ago, and how they would force laptops and PC's into extinction. quote

LotsaSphagetti 1 week ago#13 Tablets no but phones are doing great work a quote

king_madden 1 week ago#14 Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. Lmao its "integrity" I'm glad I'm not at that level. Even your PC wannabes are still consoles. They probably dont meet all the qualifications you've set as the standard, but they still are On topic console gaming doesn't really need saving, regardless of what people here think there's still a ton of people who prefer console over PC. You guys would feel better about this if you just accepted that fact finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend. quote

Gamegeek123 6 days ago#15 king_madden posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. Lmao its "integrity" I'm glad I'm not at that level. Even your PC wannabes are still consoles. They probably dont meet all the qualifications you've set as the standard, but they still are On topic console gaming doesn't really need saving, regardless of what people here think there's still a ton of people who prefer console over PC. You guys would feel better about this if you just accepted that fact I've been primarily a console gamer. I usually determine how good a console is by their number of good games.  N64, PS2, and Gamecube for example are great consoles because of their excellent libraries.  PS4 however is a piece of trash because a lot of its exclusives are all flash and little substance. There's no meat to many of the current gen trash that's making their way on the PS4, and it's even more disappointing that they are mostly AAA games too Final Fantasy IX is the biggest garbage game ever created. quote

Kovatch 6 days ago#16 That's precisely why Nintendo should not join the power war. Shinier graphics alone don't make a game. Been gamin' since PONG <DRAGON WARRIORS FOREVER> ATARI CAPCOM MIDWAY Nintendo SEGA <3 quote

berusnoir 6 days ago#17 Gamegeek123 posted... king_madden posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. Lmao its "integrity" I'm glad I'm not at that level. Even your PC wannabes are still consoles. They probably dont meet all the qualifications you've set as the standard, but they still are On topic console gaming doesn't really need saving, regardless of what people here think there's still a ton of people who prefer console over PC. You guys would feel better about this if you just accepted that fact I've been primarily a console gamer. I usually determine how good a console is by their number of good games.  N64, PS2, and Gamecube for example are great consoles because of their excellent libraries.  PS4 however is a piece of trash because a lot of its exclusives are all flash and little substance. There's no meat to many of the current gen trash that's making their way on the PS4, and it's even more disappointing that they are mostly AAA games too Seems like we kind of agree but in my case is they seem to focused on going with more and bigger resolution but forgetting great gameplay, they have the power to create great gameplay experience but choose to get better graphics quote

king_madden 5 days ago#18 Gamegeek123 posted... king_madden posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. Lmao its "integrity" I'm glad I'm not at that level. Even your PC wannabes are still consoles. They probably dont meet all the qualifications you've set as the standard, but they still are On topic console gaming doesn't really need saving, regardless of what people here think there's still a ton of people who prefer console over PC. You guys would feel better about this if you just accepted that fact I've been primarily a console gamer. I usually determine how good a console is by their number of good games.  N64, PS2, and Gamecube for example are great consoles because of their excellent libraries.  PS4 however is a piece of trash because a lot of its exclusives are all flash and little substance. There's no meat to many of the current gen trash that's making their way on the PS4, and it's even more disappointing that they are mostly AAA games too I have a gaming PC but I'm also primarily a console gamer. I loved the ps2 library, and I'm loving the ps4 library. I'm probably in the triple digits in the amount of games played not counting PS+ games but its been great. Why do you say a systems "library", but then only speak of the exclusives? There's a ton more games that make up a library. If I could only play exclusives gaming would be such a drag no matter what system owned finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend. quote

agedapper 5 days ago#19 The switch is a great second option to have when you have one of the other main consoles. quote

Fauch 5 days ago#20 Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. This is wrong. Komm suesser Tod quote

kobalobasileus 5 days ago#21 Switch could save console gaming by bringing all those console-style Japanese handheld games to a device that is both a handheld and a console... yet the persistent rumors of a 3DS successor that is a dedicated handheld seem to indicate that Nintendo has no interest in saving console gaming (again), and just wants to watch the world burn. quote

raulgarcia2 (Topic Creator)4 days ago#22 Fauch posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. This is wrong. no he's right. look at Xbox1X. That is the textbook definition of PC wannabe my invention: fin no far tan sea quote

king_madden 4 days ago#23 raulgarcia2 posted... Fauch posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. This is wrong. no he's right. look at Xbox1X. That is the textbook definition of PC wannabe Its still a console finally a new .Hack game! its been too long old friend. quote

Rolfin 4 days ago#24 king_madden posted... raulgarcia2 posted... Fauch posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. This is wrong. no he's right. look at Xbox1X. That is the textbook definition of PC wannabe Its still a console Yes it is. I may have a bone to pick with Microsoft and, to a somewhat lesser extent, Sony, about how their consoles have evolved in ways I consider to be counterproductive to what makes a console good... but they're still consoles. I won't deny that. Conversely, I do own a PS4 and hated the Wii U. Though the Wii U does meet my criteria for "consoledom", it was still a terrible idea and I didn't like it or many of the games that Nintendo released for it. And while the PS4 is not my ideal console, it's still a fun piece of kit that I don't regret purchasing. I just have my own vision of what a console should strive to be. And being a basic box that pushes power to try and make sure they can keep up with the bare minimum specs for PC porting is NOT it. I firmly believe consoles were better when the libraries between them and PC gaming were vastly different. "LAN's not dead... just dormant." quote

Lm03 4 days ago#25 raulgarcia2 posted... Rolfin posted... By focusing on expanding functionality and versatility rather than power, the Switch still maintains it's integrity as an actual console rather than a PC wannabe. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#26 Consoles are still significantly more popular than PC outside of F2P and MMOs.  PC gaming is actually in a very sad state right now. Software revenue is dropping like mad every month. At this rate, there will be no point in putting a game on PC in a year or two. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ (edited 4 days ago)quote

Lm03 4 days ago#27 slyman19 posted... Consoles are still significantly more popular than PC outside of F2P and MMOs. actually, PC games are as popular as consoles. you can thank that to a small annoying prohibition to console videogames in China, where is most of the earth's population and has migrated to many other countries. that law forced people to resort to other ways of gaming outside of consoles, the only thing were "video players" that were chinese knock offs, the iQue (basically a Nintendo 64 plug and play edition in China) and PCs. PCs, since are also used for work, can get around that law and thus, makes you able to install tons of video games, making PC gaming in China famous AF. EDIT: one additional note is that the prohibition against Videogames in china was lifted a couple years ago, but even then, it will take some time until consoles can get some market in China. (edited 4 days ago)quote

slyman19 4 days ago#28 Lm03 posted... slyman19 posted... Consoles are still significantly more popular than PC outside of F2P and MMOs. actually, PC games are as popular as consoles. you can thank that to a small annoying prohibition to console videogames in China, where is most of the earth's population and has migrated to many other countries. that law forced people to resort to other ways of gaming outside of consoles, the only thing were "video players" that were chinese knock offs, the iQue (basically a Nintendo 64 plug and play edition in China) and PCs. PCs, since are also used for work, can get around that law and thus, makes you able to install tons of video games, making PC gaming in China famous AF. Not even close. Consoles are a s*** ton more popular. Most games sell 2X-4X better on PS4. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#29 So we have people DEFENDING the convergence of PC with the PS4/XBONE twins? We want to have supposedly competing products becoming more similar to each other? "Rational" consumers want differing products to come with their own appeal. But how rational is this board? quote

slyman19 4 days ago#30 oldbutimmature posted... So we have people DEFENDING the convergence of PC with the PS4/XBONE twins? We want to have supposedly competing products becoming more similar to each other? "Rational" consumers want differing products to come with their own appeal. But how rational is this board? Becoming like PC without the PC problems is a very good thing. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#31 Becoming like PC, but without PC's free online, PC's mods, PC's lower game prices, and PC's ability to do every thing else. Competing against PC is an unwinnable blood feud. No one manufacturer can coompare to PC's ever-advancing hardware and unlimited software potential. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#32 oldbutimmature posted... Becoming like PC, but without PC's free online, PC's mods, PC's lower game prices, and PC's ability to do every thing else. Competing against PC is an unwinnable blood feud. No one manufacturer can coompare to PC's ever-advancing hardware and unlimited software potential. Sony is winning against PC right f***ing now. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

Lm03 4 days ago#33 slyman19 posted... without the PC problems and that's the part where you're wrong. or are you telling me those day-one patches and installs are unique to consoles? quote

slyman19 4 days ago#34 Lm03 posted... slyman19 posted... without the PC problems and that's the part where you're wrong. or are you telling me those day-one patches and installs are unique to consoles? Those are fine. There is actually a good chunk of time between the end of the development and the release of a game. It's good that they spend that time hunting down bugs and such.  Modern gaming would suck f***ing ass without installs. Discs are too damn slow and storage is incredibly cheap. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#35 Sony's biggest issues aren't PC, or XBONE, or Nintendo. Sony's biggest problem is its struggle to pay off corporate debt. Kinda explains the dearth of funding for its own game studios, and minimal investment (or outright liquidation) in its phone, tv, and computer divisions. Leave it to Slyman to bypass empirical financial statements. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#36 oldbutimmature posted... Sony's biggest issues aren't PC, or XBONE, or Nintendo. Sony's biggest problem is its struggle to pay off corporate debt. Kinda explains the dearth of funding for its own game studios, and minimal investment (or outright liquidation) in its phone, tv, and computer divisions. Leave it to Slyman to bypass empirical financial statements. Sony is on the right track. They are profitable thanks to the PS4 and they keep shedding the fat. They do have a large amount of debt, but it's nothing serious or anything to worry about.  And if you haven't noticed, Sony is investing a s*** ton into their studios. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ (edited 4 days ago)quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#37 1 tip. Check that awesome debt to equity ratio. Then if you can decipher it, check the income statement and statement of cash flows. That operationally profitable company is still ISSUING more bonds while shedding assets. There is little chance of going bankrupt, yet little chance of actually paying off their accumulated debts. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#38 oldbutimmature posted... 1 tip. Check that awesome debt to equity ratio. Then if you can decipher it, check the income statement and statement of cash flows. That operationally profitable company is still ISSUING more bonds while shedding assets. There is little chance of going bankrupt, yet little chance of actually paying off their accumulated debts. Yet Sony keeps pouring more and more money into PlayStation. Hell, the new God of War probably has a bigger budget than Zelda, Mario Odyssey, Splatoon 2, and Arms all put together. Sony is fine right now. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

Shinobi120 4 days ago#39 Sony drones had better hope that Sony doesn't squander the PS5 like they did with the PS3 or like Microsoft & Nintendo had squandered both Xbox One or Wii U, or they would most likely be forced to shut down their gaming division. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#40 Shinobi120 posted... Sony drones had better hope that Sony doesn't squander the PS5 like they did with the PS3 or like Microsoft & Nintendo had squandered both Xbox One or Wii U, or they would most likely be forced to shut down their gaming division. At this point, they are pretty much invincible. They are making more money than Microsoft or Nintendo could ever hope to make (in terms of videos games). Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#41 Read them financial statements? Considering PS4 is Sony's money maker, and other divisions like the phones and TVs are hemorrhaging money, and Sony's accumulated debtload will not be paid off for the foreseeable future, do you wonder if the consolidated corporation is taking more out of PS4 than PS4/PSN is bringing in? For every Horizon, just how many games have been delayed? How many studios have closed? They are employing FEWER coders than a decade ago, despite a very successful console and HD games requiring more labor. Many of the internal divisions' financial details are obscured, but the overall finances can be found on the financial statements. And Slyman can't decipher them to save his life. quote

slyman19 4 days ago#42 oldbutimmature posted... Read them financial statements? Considering PS4 is Sony's money maker, and other divisions like the phones and TVs are hemorrhaging money, and Sony's accumulated debtload will not be paid off for the foreseeable future, do you wonder if the consolidated corporation is taking more out of PS4 than PS4/PSN is bringing in? For every Horizon, just how many games have been delayed? How many studios have closed? They are employing FEWER coders than a decade ago, despite a very successful console and HD games requiring more labor. Many of the internal divisions' financial details are obscured, but the overall finances can be found on the financial statements. And Slyman can't decipher them to save his life. You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you? Or are you gong off of reports from few years ago? Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#43 Yeah, cause I actually compile, write, and rubber stamp financial statements for a living. How about Slyman getting out from under the budge and taking some community college bookkeeping course? Bragging about Sony's finances are a red flag. Not because Sony is inherently evil, but because that company was run into the ground a decade ago. The fact that you write about finances yet you obviously cannot read their freely available statements just makes you a bigger joke. quote

Gamegeek123 4 days ago#44 slyman19 posted... oldbutimmature posted... Read them financial statements? Considering PS4 is Sony's money maker, and other divisions like the phones and TVs are hemorrhaging money, and Sony's accumulated debtload will not be paid off for the foreseeable future, do you wonder if the consolidated corporation is taking more out of PS4 than PS4/PSN is bringing in? For every Horizon, just how many games have been delayed? How many studios have closed? They are employing FEWER coders than a decade ago, despite a very successful console and HD games requiring more labor. Many of the internal divisions' financial details are obscured, but the overall finances can be found on the financial statements. And Slyman can't decipher them to save his life. You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you? Or are you gong off of reports from few years ago? Of course Sony is going bankrupt. It tries too hard to keep game exclusivity, but it backfired because so many of the PS4 exclusives are trash Final Fantasy IX is the biggest garbage game ever created. quote

Shinobi120 4 days ago#45 slyman19 posted... At this point, they are pretty much invincible. They are making more money than Microsoft or Nintendo could ever hope to make (in terms of videos games). LMAO at this whole statement. Do you honestly believe that whatever money they're making, they actually keep all of it? Most of that money that Sony is making are going towards paying off their debts (in which they actually owe a ton). quote

slyman19 4 days ago#46 oldbutimmature posted... Yeah, cause I actually compile, write, and rubber stamp financial statements for a living. How about Slyman getting out from under the budge and taking some community college bookkeeping course? Bragging about Sony's finances are a red flag. Not because Sony is inherently evil, but because that company was run into the ground a decade ago. The fact that you write about finances yet you obviously cannot read their freely available statements just makes you a bigger joke. Oh, this bulls***. People love to lie about their jobs on the internet to make it seem like they have any credibility. The fact that you brought up their financials is baffling when it wasn't warranted in the first place. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

slyman19 4 days ago#47 Shinobi120 posted... slyman19 posted... At this point, they are pretty much invincible. They are making more money than Microsoft or Nintendo could ever hope to make (in terms of videos games). LMAO at this whole statement. Do you honestly believe that whatever money they're making, they actually keep all of it? Most of that money that Sony is making are going towards paying off their debts (in which they actually owe a ton). Business are not like normal people. They don't just focus on their debt. They focus on reinvesting their earnings. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

slyman19 4 days ago#48 Gamegeek123 posted... slyman19 posted... oldbutimmature posted... Read them financial statements? Considering PS4 is Sony's money maker, and other divisions like the phones and TVs are hemorrhaging money, and Sony's accumulated debtload will not be paid off for the foreseeable future, do you wonder if the consolidated corporation is taking more out of PS4 than PS4/PSN is bringing in? For every Horizon, just how many games have been delayed? How many studios have closed? They are employing FEWER coders than a decade ago, despite a very successful console and HD games requiring more labor. Many of the internal divisions' financial details are obscured, but the overall finances can be found on the financial statements. And Slyman can't decipher them to save his life. You really have no clue what you're talking about, do you? Or are you gong off of reports from few years ago? Of course Sony is going bankrupt. It tries too hard to keep game exclusivity, but it backfired because so many of the PS4 exclusives are trash No, no they are not. They are no where near bankruptcy at this point. Net Neutrality is bad for the Internet: https://www.wired.com/2015/03/fcc-better-call-saul/ quote

Gamegeek123 4 days ago#49 slyman19 posted... oldbutimmature posted... Yeah, cause I actually compile, write, and rubber stamp financial statements for a living. How about Slyman getting out from under the budge and taking some community college bookkeeping course? Bragging about Sony's finances are a red flag. Not because Sony is inherently evil, but because that company was run into the ground a decade ago. The fact that you write about finances yet you obviously cannot read their freely available statements just makes you a bigger joke. Oh, this bulls***. People love to lie about their jobs on the internet to make it seem like they have any credibility. The fact that you brought up their financials is baffling when it wasn't warranted in the first place. You got a point. We should just focus on the topic at hand - that PS4 games are generally bad Final Fantasy IX is the biggest garbage game ever created. quote

oldbutimmature 4 days ago#50 Not bankruptcy you dolt. Just a zombie-like state in which the operating profits are used to service corporate debt indefinitely. *Hint hint* Those debt to equity ratios. They won't disappear any time soon. The debt servicing also siphons resources that would normally be used to develop newer products. Thus the company cannot compete in segments like phones and TVs. quote

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