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http://www.trustedreviews.com/sonic-forces-review
I know, I know, you want to be optimistic, don't want to hate something until you've actually played it, but this game is very likely in a downward spiral. How can Sega have taken this long to learn nothing about good game design? I stand firm that this is looking like the last interaction I will have with this franchise. This is the only board I can post this on without being laughed out of the building about taking a Sonic game seriously in 2017.
DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):
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They only played one level of each 'mode', which was likely the intro level, and the main complaint was 'too many auto sequences', which the intro levels specifically of almost every Sonic game are known for. Also that person seemed super determined to not like a single thing about this game, not even normal stuff.
I'll wait till actual reviews.
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That's not a f***ing review. I do think the game will be pretty bad (decent at times, but mostly just unimpressive), but quit making crap posts like those.
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What immediately buried this game for me is the incredibly dull tone. I could forgive many flaws if the game at least looked pleasant, but it's 50 shades of brown already in the first level. You know it's only going downhill from there when the first level of a Sonic game isn't brimming with cheerful colors and doesn't immerse you. This is something Mania stayed true to, even beyond the traditionally pretty first Zone.
Everything will be fire.
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i think i finally understand the problem with modern Sonic games.
- 2D Sonic should always use the same formula. - 3D Sonic should keep changing the formula. look at Sonic Mania. it's not very different from classic Sonic games and that's what makes it good. look at Sonic Forces. they brought back classic Sonic and they even brought back wisps. but those concepts belong in a different game. the Avatar is a new and different concept and maybe all the focus should've been put on that concept rather than trying to add 1 new concept and bring back 2 others. they did the same thing Sonic Lost World. Sonic Colors and Sonic Generations are loved for their unique ideas. I'd even say Unleashed could have been good too if they put more effort into the game. you shouldn't reuse the same idea for a series like the 3D Sonic games. i feel like because of this, Sonic Forces will be mediocre at best. and if it is, I truly hope the Sonic team learns from their mistakes.
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DOTBHDD posted...
i think i finally understand the problem with modern Sonic games. For real. Using the Generations' concept of classic/modern Sonic in Forces was a mistake, it only worked as a celebration of the franchise anniversary. Now it's just tacked on and the concept of Avatars further conflicts with it. Like, if we create an avatar is it a classic or a modern? Mixing ideas can work really well if done right, but what Sega is doing here is anything but right.
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nonexistinghero posted...
That's not a f***ing review. I do think the game will be pretty bad (decent at times, but mostly just unimpressive), but quit making crap posts like those. HAH, I have more bad press: http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2017/07/first_impressions_running_scared_from_sonic_forces My heart is breaking.
DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):
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I normally like Nintendo life... but my god that video he made didn't in any way sound informative. He basically said " I hate it because i do" without giving any real reasons why he does. He also contradicts himself quite I few times.
Maybe it will stink... but we all should wait for it to come come out before getting a balls twisted. I mean you are only seeing a tutorial level essentially, which are known to be autoish based.
If you are skeptical of everything, you wind up not trying anything.
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Wrote about this a few weeks ago, but I am going to wait for the reviews. Fairly sure I read the Nintendo Life article and realised the guy didn't know what he was talking about when he said Modern Sonic was cookie cutter gameplay from 06. That is simply incorrect.
So far the Modern and Classic Sonic sections seem like a cookie cutter of Generations. Generations was good. The avatar gameplay is still up for debate, but considering Modern Sonic gameplay has been pretty good in Unleashed, Colours and Generations I can't really see them dropping the ball on their 4th attempt at it.
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I gave Sonic Lost World a chance, bought it at launch and didn't read reviews or anything. It started strong, but got more and more bogged down and annoying all the way to the end. Pretty much killed my enthusiasm in the series. I am going to wait a bit after that game comes out before I consider getting Forces. I'm not even hyped for Mania, but I believe it would be better.
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DOTBHDD posted...
i think i finally understand the problem with modern Sonic games. No. The problem with modern Sonic is that it's more 2-dimensional than the 2D games; The developers are too afraid of it becoming glitchy or players falling off places if the physics aren't restrictive and the game doesn't have a bunch of auto-segments like in the boost games; And each new game seems to retcon something in what little "lore" the Sonic universe had, which is something even Mario tries not to do.
"You got a lot to learn before you beat me.
Tryagainkiddo AAAH AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH."
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DOTBHDD posted...
- 3D Sonic should keep changing the formula. the last time they did that we got Lost world and look how that turned out. people then told then that they should have never changed the formula for no good reason and just improve on what generations had goign for it. Now that they are, you wanna tell them that they should be changing the formula? Sonic fanbase truly is insatiable.
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MegaButterfree posted...
At least we still have Sonic Mania. The last hurrah. I mean I don't WANT Sonic Forces to suck, I just feel like I've never been impressed by it and I don't want to encourage the series to continue if they can't demonstrate an effort to improvement or refinement (and that includes just sitting on their hands; I was more worried that I'd be driven away by outright s***ty gameplay but Sonic Forces could potentially accomplish it by just being lazy as hell). The custom hero is a nice touch but I don't know if that's enough to save my interest in the game. I feel like whether this game lives or dies for me will ultimately be a matter of how well-written and compelling the plot is (since this seems like a more plot-driven Sonic game, akin to Sonic Unleashed). Boost Sonic and classic Sonic I have no expectation of improving my opinion of the game as they look very much the same as they did in Sonic Generations. The presence of Wisps is also aggravatingly stale (as I don't think they belong anywhere but Sonic Colors).
DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):
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Well on its way???
Who cares about Forces it was garbage when it was announced because we've got MANIA on the horizon!!
Ignorance is Bliss...
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The_DOAM posted...
Well on its way??? Because I'd really rather not stop being a Sonic fan because Sega can't get their head out of their asses but things aren't looking promising. And, no, another Mania won't "bring me back". That would be too little too late if Sonic Forces f's up.
DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):
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Thankfully we have sonic mania coming...the moment they released that first screenshot it was clear this was a continuing horrible trend for sonic 3D games
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Horrible "review", horrible website format, you can tell it's just trying to get clicks by the ad format, please don't click on this garbage.
I'm tired of fighting for my friends.....
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122988 posted...
Horrible "review", horrible website format, you can tell it's just trying to get clicks by the ad format, please don't click on this garbage. Came in to say this. f*** the writer's stupid opinion and his awful awful website.
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"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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Has Sonic has ever been not s***?
Mother 4 and MegaMan Battle Network Chrono X, two fangames that deserve more recognition. Please check them out.
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SilverBassCross posted...
Has Sonic has ever been not s***? Just the first three Genesis titles
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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SilverBassCross posted...
Has Sonic has ever been not s***? This is the Nintendo Switch board. Your kind doesn't exist here.
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 Name them
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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Baha05 posted...
SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? Haven't played those, that's probably why I dislike the Sonic games.
I posted this for you!!
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@Baha05
Sonic 3D Blast, Sonic R, Sonic Chaos, Sonic Unleashed, Sonic Generations, GBA Sonic Trilogy, Sonic Colors, Sonic Generations. There's quite a bit more of games from the series beyond the Genesis games that are liked. Then again, you are a Nintendo fanboy, so I doubt you'll understand.
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Baha05 posted...
SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? Eh, unnecessary no player input loops and spirals, "spin dash, hit roadblock, jump over roadblock, spindash again" mindless gameplay. They've all been s*** to me. Speed just doesn't work well in platformers, especially when you can't see far enough in front of you in 2D. Give me precision jumping and/or shooting please.
Mother 4 and MegaMan Battle Network Chrono X, two fangames that deserve more recognition. Please check them out.
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 Not sure if you are f***ing with me with that list or not. Also I'm a gamer first befire a Nintendo Fanboy, or are you going to try and tell everyone here that I've only played Nintendo games and never had any experience outside that?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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SilverBassCross posted...
Baha05 posted...SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? It's obvious you haven't played more than a minute of the classic games. |
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you kids have fun hating for no reason, but i think ill wait for an ACTUAL REVIEW
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dominodalek posted...
SilverBassCross posted...Baha05 posted...SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? I have and I know there are non speed levels. Which are widely hated by fans for not being fast paced enough.
Mother 4 and MegaMan Battle Network Chrono X, two fangames that deserve more recognition. Please check them out.
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@Baha05
I'm being real. Have you even played a Sonic game? You're not a gamer. You're a Nintendo fanboy who doesn't leave his nest. Unless you post games on this site that aren't Nintendo games (iOS doesn't count) and post on other places that aren't Nintendo boards, you're gonna be called a Nintendo fanboy.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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@SilverBassCross
Sonic the Hedgehog was about exploring levels. Offering two styles of play.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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SilverBassCross posted...
dominodalek posted...SilverBassCross posted...Baha05 posted...SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? the best levels in the classics (mostly Sonic 3) are the ones that don't have a delineation between speed levels and non-speed levels, and seamlessly blend the aspects together. Im starting to doubt you played anythign at all and beginning to think your knowledge amounts to the opinions of a few individuals online in YouTube vids and little else.
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 So bulls*** perspectives is your gift then eh? And yeah I have played a Sonic game, played non Nintendo games as well? Do you want proof or are you just going to ignore hard evidence?
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 Right oh then, time to make you look like a complete ass
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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SilverBassCross posted...
dominodalek posted...SilverBassCross posted...Baha05 posted...SilverBassCross posted...Has Sonic has ever been not s***? t's more a problem with Sonic 1's pacing that it's got an even split of speed levels and precision levels, and it jumps from one to another which could be annoying for players not yet used to the level of precision sometimes required. Sonic 2 and 3 mix the two styles together far more seamlessly.
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@old-new72
Do not mind the glare I don't really give a s*** to take photos on my phone just to make a point that you'll just brush aside anyhow but as far as current consoles go http://img02.deviantart.net/2491/i/2017/202/8/2/untitled_by_baha05-dbh51iz.jpg My PS4 Collection http://img06.deviantart.net/ec7f/i/2017/202/3/6/untitled_by_baha05-dbh51rt.jpg My s***ty setup for my PS4 with my Legacy Tommy Oliver zords on top http://img11.deviantart.net/fcd7/i/2017/202/4/c/untitled_by_baha05-dbh51qk.jpg And my Siwtch setup with my LE Fallout 4 Pipboy Not shown is my 3DS Collection becasue f*** it too damn lazy to try and take a picture of that.
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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@Baha05
Now let's see some older stuff. You say you played Sonic games. Show some of the older games on Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube and Xbox if you even bother to have those systems and games. You should go to other boards. Still doesn't excuse your Nintendo fanboy attitude.
"Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermit
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 Uhh no I won't show that, mainly becasue f*** that, proved you ass wrong as being a Nintendo only game, that's good enough. (Becasue it would take FAR more effort to even drag those systems out what with them being in storage and all)
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 That's not me being a liar that's me not wanting to dig in the garage to pull out older systems and games just to prove a point to you which has already put you in your place
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 I have, if you don't believe me that's on YOU
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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old-new72 posted...
@Baha05 No because the proof you want is a matter of time consumptions searching through boxes to find older systems and games that I may not even still have because they are that old and unorganized
"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"
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old-new72 posted...@Baha05
Then you're a liar.To the ignore list you go.
I like how this guy has made himself either look like a troll or like complete tool"He may be Mr. Clean, but his soul will always be dirty!"xF0x posted...What immediately buried this game for me is the incredibly dull tone. I could forgive many flaws if the game at least looked pleasant, but it's 50 shades of brown already in the first level. You know it's only going downhill from there when the first level of a Sonic game isn't brimming with cheerful colors and doesn't immerse you. This is something Mania stayed true to, even beyond the traditionally pretty first Zone.
That's a petty complaint. Really? Brown killed the whole game for you? Really petty, pal.Corrin was a mistake.
Not changing sig until Ash wins a Pokemon league, becomes a Pokemon Master and/or ends his journey. Started 12/14/2016@old-new72 posted...@Baha05
Now let's see some older stuff. You say you played Sonic games. Show some of the older games on Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube and Xbox if you even bother to have those systems and games.
You should go to other boards. Still doesn't excuse your Nintendo fanboy attitude.
</moving goalposts fallacy>Corrin was a mistake.
Not changing sig until Ash wins a Pokemon league, becomes a Pokemon Master and/or ends his journey. Started 12/14/2016old-new72 posted...@Baha05
Now let's see some older stuff. You say you played Sonic games. Show some of the older games on Genesis, Saturn, Dreamcast, PS2, GameCube and Xbox if you even bother to have those systems and games.
You should go to other boards. Still doesn't excuse your Nintendo fanboy attitude.
Lmao keep moving those goalpostsPlaying: SMT 4 Apocalypse, Kingdom Hearts, Mirror's Edge Catalyst@sentoworf
Lmao keep being sore I called a Nintendo fanboy out on his bulls***."Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermitThe custom hero is garbage. Wish we could play as Tails and Knuckles instead. I would even enjoy Silver as a playable character.Cuckle doodle dooDark_SilverX posted...The custom hero is garbage. Wish we could play as Tails and Knuckles instead. I would even enjoy Silver as a playable character.
Custom hero could be fun but that's the only thing I have any real hope in right now.DorkLink said I could borrow his signature so I did (see below):old-new72 posted...@sentoworf
Lmao keep being sore I called a Nintendo fanboy out on his bulls***.
Call him whatever you want that doesn't change the fact that you made a fool out of yourself in this topic lolPlaying: SMT 4 Apocalypse, Kingdom Hearts, Mirror's Edge Catalyst@sentoworf
Say whatever you want that doesn't change the fact that you'll defend a fanboy who says bulls*** things."Super Mario Kart has better 3D graphics than Saturn games." The cranky hermitold-new72 posted...@sentoworf
Say whatever you want that doesn't change the fact that you'll defend a fanboy who says bulls*** things.
But I wasn't defending you?Playing: SMT 4 Apocalypse, Kingdom Hearts, Mirror's Edge Catalystsupremeblaster posted...They only played one level of each 'mode', which was likely the intro level, and the main complaint was 'too many auto sequences', which the intro levels specifically of almost every Sonic game are known for. Also that person seemed super determined to not like a single thing about this game, not even normal stuff.
I'll wait till actual reviews.Uh... A-Are you sure to interact with others?
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