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Raccoon1988 3 days ago#1
Just finished Conquest. I will just get the other version from the in game dlc. 

Should i bother with Birthright or go straight to revelation? How long to beat each of them. Is the story in birthright necessary? 

Thanks for all advice.
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mattfrank 3 days ago#2
Each version is about the same length.Birthright and Revelation are two separate paths leading to different outcomes.

Revelation is weird contains a lot stages with gimmicky/annoying mechanics you need to work around.Characters you recruit are often severally under leveled ,but you are free to grind in this mode.
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Blancshammer 3 days ago#3
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Salocool 3 days ago#4
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.
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Raccoon1988 3 days ago#6
PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Already finished Echoes
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Raccoon1988 3 days ago#7
Blancshammer posted...
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Over 100 hrs DQ 8 already
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Raccoon1988 posted...
PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Already finished Echoes


Yeah I dunno then lol
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helldew 3 days ago#9
its up to you it seams like you like FE so id just play both. Birthright story is a bit less offensively bad then Rev is. Birthright is pretty easy also enemies dont really have many skills like they did in conquest while the map design tends to be a lot more straight foward rev tends to be super gimmicky. Rev does have the actual ending to fates tho so there is that. its to bad most of the part before it is kinda dumb
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kilaude 3 days ago#10
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.


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Salocool 3 days ago#11
People and critics also enjoy Superhero movies, and they're still excruciatingly mind-numbing. Since when is the general opinion right; you haven't learned about logical fallacies yet in high school? Vox populi, vox dei?
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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kilaude posted...
Salocool posted...
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Awakening being super popular and successful ruffled a lot of feathers. A lot of people in the FE fanbase enjoyed the series' relative obscurity.
Raccoon1988 2 days ago#13
I don't like Awakening.

Maybe since I started playing on normal/casual and it's so damn easy. Conquest make me think about every move more seriously.
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RhetoricalDream posted...
kilaude posted...
Salocool posted...
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Universal acclaim based on 1197 Ratings

Awakening being super popular and successful ruffled a lot of feathers. A lot of people in the FE fanbase enjoyed the series' relative obscurity.


the "old" fire emblem fanbase is utter trash, I hate that i started FE alongside most of them.
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Juliansgirl 2 days ago#15
Revelations Isn't too bad, you get everyone mostly. 
Birthright is kinda of boring
Blayshy 2 days ago#16
Birthright.
Then Revelation.
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Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

I second this claim, birthright has such a hilariously stupid plot hole to pander to its audience which basically renders the central concept of it to nothing. Revelation has to have one of the most poorly written stories in the franchise as a whole, characters are introduced for next to no reason other than "i'm here, lemme join lol", and the maps are so boring and uncreative.
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Low_key_done posted...
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

I second this claim, birthright has such a hilariously stupid plot hole to pander to its audience which basically renders the central concept of it to nothing. Revelation has to have one of the most poorly written stories in the franchise as a whole, characters are introduced for next to no reason other than "i'm here, lemme join lol", and the maps are so boring and uncreative.


if you think Conquest had the best story you're higher than a kite, Conquest is hot dog shit, birthright has the best story of the 3
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HayashiTakara posted...
Low_key_done posted...
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

I second this claim, birthright has such a hilariously stupid plot hole to pander to its audience which basically renders the central concept of it to nothing. Revelation has to have one of the most poorly written stories in the franchise as a whole, characters are introduced for next to no reason other than "i'm here, lemme join lol", and the maps are so boring and uncreative.


if you think Conquest had the best story you're higher than a kite, Conquest is hot dog shit, birthright has the best story of the 3

out of the three? yes conquest is the best because it has something the other 2 don't, a story that "makes sense".
I mean think about it.
One path is, everyone join corrin to fight some unnamable foe that garon is allowed to name because plot reasons. Even though corrin can't name it, we'll join him because friendship allows a nullification of all logic possible in a game.

Another path is, hey guys, let's fight alongside your "real" family against the cruel nohrians and get revenge for the death of mikoto. Oh haha i forgot to mention that you're not actually related to the hoshidans though in any capacity, and you're actual bloodline member (mikoto) is dead so you hold no real loyalty to this side in the grand scope of things but hey that's okay because um.... yeah!

Nohr, while yes it has it's issues, it at least is sound. You fight alongside your adoptive siblings to fight against an opressive and corrupt ruler from the inside.

that said, fates was a pretty big disappointment for me which is ironic considering this is the game that got me into the franchise in the first place and turned me into a fe fan.
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PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Lmao! Echoes is the worst game in the series to come to the states.
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Absolutezero93 posted...
PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Lmao! Echoes is the worst game in the series to come to the states.

i'm always curious to hear opposing view points, what makes you say that it is the "worst".
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colt85 2 days ago#22
Low_key_done posted...
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

I second this claim, birthright has such a hilariously stupid plot hole to pander to its audience which basically renders the central concept of it to nothing. Revelation has to have one of the most poorly written stories in the franchise as a whole, characters are introduced for next to no reason other than "i'm here, lemme join lol", and the maps are so boring and uncreative.


With the exception of the maps being boring, you can pretty much replace BR/R with Conquest in that comment and it still applies.
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Play both Birthright and Conquest, but don't really bother grinding. That's what Revelation is for, since you'll basically have access to all the characters, except for a few who aren't available for story reasons.
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Maetch 2 days ago#24
NeonDragon9000 posted...
Play both Birthright and Conquest, but don't really bother grinding. That's what Revelation is for, since you'll basically have access to all the characters, except for a few who aren't available for story reasons.

And you can kinda still use them by making Einherjar of them from completed games and using them in Revelation. They can do everything except get support bonuses.
Maetch posted...
NeonDragon9000 posted...
Play both Birthright and Conquest, but don't really bother grinding. That's what Revelation is for, since you'll basically have access to all the characters, except for a few who aren't available for story reasons.

And you can kinda still use them by making Einherjar of them from completed games and using them in Revelation. They can do everything except get support bonuses.

Yup, that's what I do. Have the Birthright Avatar on Conquest, and vice versa. Have the characters that aren't in Revelation via Einherjar. Shame they are completely silent, though.

Einherjar is actually the only way you can have a Nohr Noble on Birthright and Hoshido Noble on Conquest.
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Metastase 2 days ago#26
Resident Evil Revelations of course. lol
Low_key_done posted...
Absolutezero93 posted...
PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Lmao! Echoes is the worst game in the series to come to the states.

i'm always curious to hear opposing view points, what makes you say that it is the "worst".


The game is easier than Awakening, dated and boring gameplay and mechanics and overall horrendous game design. It was nearly 100% the same as the original game its based on with a face lift.
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Low_key_done posted...
HayashiTakara posted...
Low_key_done posted...
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

I second this claim, birthright has such a hilariously stupid plot hole to pander to its audience which basically renders the central concept of it to nothing. Revelation has to have one of the most poorly written stories in the franchise as a whole, characters are introduced for next to no reason other than "i'm here, lemme join lol", and the maps are so boring and uncreative.


if you think Conquest had the best story you're higher than a kite, Conquest is hot dog shit, birthright has the best story of the 3

out of the three? yes conquest is the best because it has something the other 2 don't, a story that "makes sense".
I mean think about it.
One path is, everyone join corrin to fight some unnamable foe that garon is allowed to name because plot reasons. Even though corrin can't name it, we'll join him because friendship allows a nullification of all logic possible in a game.

Another path is, hey guys, let's fight alongside your "real" family against the cruel nohrians and get revenge for the death of mikoto. Oh haha i forgot to mention that you're not actually related to the hoshidans though in any capacity, and you're actual bloodline member (mikoto) is dead so you hold no real loyalty to this side in the grand scope of thingsbut hey that's okay because um.... yeah!

Nohr, while yes it has it's issues, it at least is sound. You fight alongside your adoptive siblings to fight against an opressive and corrupt ruler from the inside.

that said, fates was a pretty big disappointment for me which is ironic considering this is the game that got me into the franchise in the first place and turned me into a fe fan.


Conquest makes the least amount of sense. You went back to Nohr to find out if Garon really is evil, and spent the whole fucking game bitching about how much of a mistake the choice was.
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Raccoon1988 2 days ago#29
Tbh, I can't imagine a story that would make less sense than conquest anyway. I like it for the challenge and map design.

As for the story, how those Norians are following orders without any doubt until Corrin hit them up that something seems wrong???? Up until maybe second to last chapter then oh yeah lets kill the dude???
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Salocool 2 days ago#30
Raccoon1988 posted...
Tbh, I can't imagine a story that would make less sense than conquest anyway. I like it for the challenge and map design.

The three stories are godawful, quite frankly. Start Button is your friend from start to finish,
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
Salocool posted...
Raccoon1988 posted...
Tbh, I can't imagine a story that would make less sense than conquest anyway. I like it for the challenge and map design.

The three stories are godawful, quite frankly. Start Button is your friend from start to finish,

Guess that's what happens when you try to make three games at the same freaking time instead of one coherint story.
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Raccoon1988 2 days ago#32
Blancshammer posted...
Salocool posted...
Raccoon1988 posted...
Tbh, I can't imagine a story that would make less sense than conquest anyway. I like it for the challenge and map design.

The three stories are godawful, quite frankly. Start Button is your friend from start to finish,

Guess that's what happens when you try to make three games at the same freaking time instead of one coherint story.


I thought at first it was cool they make you choose side or even choose to go on alone. Then the problem is there isn't enough substance to go on with 28 chapters story.
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Finn-X 2 days ago#33
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

Except Awakening is better than Conquest
Iceylemon 2 days ago#34
Finn-X posted...
Salocool posted...
I'm huh... You do realize Conquest's the only good title of the three? At best, I'd give Birthright a 5/10, and Revelations a 3/10. They're just... Very poorly designed, similarly to Awakening, only with a slightly better map design.

Except Awakening is better than Conquest


Subjective. I prefer fates over awakening.
Absolutezero93 posted...
PhoenixFire99 posted...
Skip Birthright and Revelation altogether, absolutely terrible games.

Get Echoes instead.


Lmao! Echoes is the worst game in the series to come to the states.


Subjective.
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Salocool 2 days ago#36
Iceylemon posted...
Subjective. I prefer fates over awakening.

Same here, Awakening is a game I found excruciating to even play as there is neither substance in the story/dialogues/characters, nor the map design. Both were painfully mediocre in their execution, especially in comparison to previous titles in the franchise. Obviously, the new FE development team at IS had no interest in keeping the quality up to snuff, and rather enjoyed throwing in their love for inane grinding, and incoherent/trite anime plot devices.

At the very least tho, the in-game models, their animations and most of the BGMs are truly fantastic.
And the Lord [...] drive out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.
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Iceylemon 10 hours ago#37
Salocool posted...
Iceylemon posted...
Subjective. I prefer fates over awakening.

Same here, Awakening is a game I found excruciating to even play as there is neither substance in the story/dialogues/characters, nor the map design. Both were painfully mediocre in their execution, especially in comparison to previous titles in the franchise. Obviously, the new FE development team at IS had no interest in keeping the quality up to snuff, and rather enjoyed throwing in their love for inane grinding, and incoherent/trite anime plot devices.

At the very least tho, the in-game models, their animations and most of the BGMs are truly fantastic.


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