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Friday, July 21, 2017

Nintendo Switch online app is an astonishingly bad misstep

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swordza 1 day ago#1
https://www.slashgear.com/nintendo-switch-online-app-is-an-astonishingly-bad-misstep-19492044/

there’s no way to hear in-game audio from your Switch through your smart device. This is an issue, of course, because your smart phone is where you’ll do your voice chatting while you’re playing multiplayer games. As it stands, the only work around for this is a rather bulky headset developed by HORI, which plugs into both your Switch and your smart device at the same time.


The next mind-boggling limitation of the Switch online app is the fact that the app must remain open at all times while you’re chatting to your friends. If you switch to another app or (presumably) shut off your phone’s screen, you’ll exit the voice chat you’re currently in and you won’t re-enter until you open the app again.


e:ra
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It sucks Nintendo went this route.
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MrBanballow 1 day ago#3
At the very least, they have to fix that last bit, where it kicks you out if your phone's screen is turned off. As it is, I'm going to be using my phone for the app + as a mobile hotspot to play in the first place, I don't need the screen drawing extra power.
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AstralFrost 1 day ago#4
Hey come on its the best Nintendo could come up with.
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Paulf001 1 day ago#5
Love to see how Reggie spins this.
Tek_Grab 1 day ago#6
swordza posted...
https://www.slashgear.com/nintendo-switch-online-app-is-an-astonishingly-bad-misstep-19492044/

there’s no way to hear in-game audio from your Switch through your smart device. This is an issue, of course, because your smart phone is where you’ll do your voice chatting while you’re playing multiplayer games. As it stands, the only work around for this is a rather bulky headset developed by HORI, which plugs into both your Switch and your smart device at the same time.


Couldn't you just use one of these to run the chat audio through?

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c0/Bluetooth_headset.jpg
How many apps continue giving you 100% functionality when the phone is put to sleep(the screen turning off is part of that mode)?
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Houndour 1 day ago#8
ArsenicSteel posted...
How many apps continue giving you 100% functionality when the phone is put to sleep(the screen turning off is part of that mode)?


Online radio apps such as spotify and pandora.
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asbsand 1 day ago#9
Welp, I'm less interested in Switch knowing they're making this a paid-for service. I'm not gonna buy a system just for BotW and Oddysey and other single player things. This kind of Online makes it sound like a worse experience than 3DS which, despite having a System-Friend-Code at least had all functionality within itself and it was easy to set up and get going. I can't imagine playing a Monster Hunter game on Switch the way I did on 3DS as easily.
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PS4Warrior 1 day ago#10
It really is.
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ArsenicSteel posted...
How many apps continue giving you 100% functionality when the phone is put to sleep(the screen turning off is part of that mode)?

Um... A lot... >_>
Tek_Grab 1 day ago#12
asbsand posted...
Welp, I'm less interested in Switch knowing they're making this a paid-for service. I'm not gonna buy a system just for BotW and Oddysey and other single player things. This kind of Online makes it sound like a worse experience than 3DS which, despite having a System-Friend-Code at least had all functionality within itself and it was easy to set up and get going. I can't imagine playing a Monster Hunter game on Switch the way I did on 3DS as easily.


You don't need the app to play online.
asbsand 1 day ago#13
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.
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asbsand posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.

Aww well I'll let my coworker know that there should be one more Switch available for him to find.
asbsand posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.


you won't need the app, but you'll need $$ in 2018 ;)
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GeneralFox 1 day ago#17
The micro management of the wires, phone headphones and what not look like a complete chore to try and figure out. TB posted a picture of his set up on twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFIRTsIXUAM5b5X.jpg

I definitely say would say playing undocked is not prefered over docked if your going to use this. As the wires will be away from the screen instead of being in the way while playing.
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Tek_Grab 1 day ago#18
IrateGameFAQer posted...
asbsand posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.


you won't need the app, but you'll need $$ in 2018 ;)


And you'll get complete online multiplayer access and free games with online play for 20 dollars and are able to (optionally) use voice chat through the app. I fail to see the problem here at all, unless you think access to the servers should be free entirely based solely on you're not liking how the voice chat functionality works.
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
ArsenicSteel posted...
How many apps continue giving you 100% functionality when the phone is put to sleep(the screen turning off is part of that mode)?

Um... A lot... >_>


So many they can't be named! Amazing. 


Online radio apps such as spotify and pandora.


100% functionality
It's geeks who really make or break a TV show or movie or videogame.
Tek_Grab posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...
asbsand posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.


you won't need the app, but you'll need $$ in 2018 ;)


And you'll get complete online multiplayer access and free games with online play for 20 dollars and are able to (optionally) use voice chat through the app. I fail to see the problem here at all, unless you think access to the servers should be free entirely based solely on you're not liking how the voice chat functionality works.


who said anything about the app?
Nice try though.
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Paulf001 posted...
Love to see how Reggie spins this.


He's probably really annoyed with the company who made the app for how shoddy it is at launch. 
The backlash wouldn't be so bad if it did basic things like worked in sleep mode.

Be nice to see how he spins it tho.
ScavengerDan posted...

Be nice to see how he spins it tho.


"we have no comment at this time."
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Houndour 1 day ago#23
ArsenicSteel posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
ArsenicSteel posted...
How many apps continue giving you 100% functionality when the phone is put to sleep(the screen turning off is part of that mode)?

Um... A lot... >_>


So many they can't be named! Amazing. 


Online radio apps such as spotify and pandora.


100% functionality


No one cares about "100% functionality" that you brought up
When the phone is put to sleep, which is what the Nintendo Switch Online app can't do.
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Tek_Grab 1 day ago#24
ScavengerDan posted...
Paulf001 posted...
Love to see how Reggie spins this.


He's probably really annoyed with the company who made the app for how shoddy it is at launch. 
.


I doubt most people beyond a bunch of internet spergs really care at this point that Reggie would need to make a statement on anything. We all know that the app will receive some criticisms from gaming press, will probably receive a couple patches down the line and Nintendo fans will just get used to it like they do to everything else that Nintendo releases that falls short of the level of quality of its competitors.
GeneralFox posted...
The micro management of the wires, phone headphones and what not look like a complete chore to try and figure out. TB posted a picture of his set up on twitter.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DFIRTsIXUAM5b5X.jpg

I definitely say would say playing undocked is not prefered over docked if your going to use this. As the wires will be away from the screen instead of being in the way while playing.

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.

They announced that? I thought that was horis.
While the app thing is a fiasco what the hell does e:ra means though???
Tek_Grab 1 day ago#29
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.

They announced that? I thought that was horis.


It is, but people keep acting like Nintendo didn't say in the first place that they wanted people to be able to use headsets and earpieces they already used with their phones.
Lm03 1 day ago#30
asbsand posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
You don't need the app to play online.

But the fact that you need the app for something makes it bad, and therefore I'm not going to get a Switch.

its definately an awful use of the app, but i wouldn't make it a dealbreaker to get a Switch. it isnt much of a big deal if you can still use Skype, Discord or Team Speak.

i mean, you can still play with your friends without the app, so why bother with it?
Lm03 1 day ago#31
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.

you don't have to do it the "official" way either.

just because Nintendo tells you to do it that way doesn't mean you have to blindly obey them lol
Lm03 posted...
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.

you don't have to do it the "official" way either.

just because Nintendo tells you to do it that way doesn't mean you have to blindly obey them lol


the comment was said in jest.

f*** Nintendo for always being so stubborn.
Tek_Grab 1 day ago#33
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Lm03 posted...
Sofa_King_Hi posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Why would anyone do any of that? Just connect a Bluetooth headset to your phone...or don't even do that. Speakerphone it.


because that's one of the official ways, and according to people on this board we should be compliant.

you don't have to do it the "official" way either.

just because Nintendo tells you to do it that way doesn't mean you have to blindly obey them lol


the comment was said in jest.

f*** Nintendo for always being so stubborn.


But Nintendo said outright that they wanted people to not have to go out and buy another headset but just use the devices they already use with their phones.

The Hori is not the "official way", it's just there for those who want the game and chat audio to come through one pair of headphones, but you if have a bluetooth headset or one of those pairs of earbuds with a mic, you should be able to use those with the app, though you'll have to tolerate the game audio coming through a separate source like the Switch speakers or the tv speakers. But a lot of people play online like that. Not everyone goes out and buys official "gamer headphones"
Tek_Grab posted...
The Hori is not the "official way", it's just there for those who want the game and chat audio to come through one pair of headphones, but you if have a bluetooth headset or one of those pairs of earbuds with a mic, you should be able to use those with the app, though you'll have to tolerate the game audio coming through a separate source like the Switch speakers or the tv speakers. But a lot of people play online like that. Not everyone goes out and buys official "gamer headphones"

Yup. Exactly the same as if I played on my PS4. Audio on tv. Voice in headphones. Only difference is using my phone... Which is always there so no bigs.
YOSHI202 1 day ago#35
PS4Warrior posted...
It really is.
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Tek_Grab 1 day ago#36
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...

Yup. Exactly the same as if I played on my PS4. Audio on tv. Voice in headphones. Only difference is using my phone... Which is always there so no bigs.


Right. We should let Nintendo know what we're upset about and what we might prefer, but I think people have been making a waaaaay bigger deal out of this than it really is. And I think there's a lot of tension with the Switch that every little idiosyncrasy about it gets blown out of proportion.

The Nintendo fans want the Switch to finally be the response to Sony & Microsoft they believe Nintendo needs to make and so they're scared about anything that suggests it might be another Wii U or that it's not the "hardcore gaymer" console they want it to be. And the people who hate Nintendo want to find any excuse to believe that Nintendo is the worst of the three gaming companies, no matter how pedantic it makes them look to fixate on just this one minor problem.

And so what would otherwise be smaller discussions and debates turn into huge controversies.
That last part is incredibly troubling. If you can make phone calls, listen to music, or let videos play in the background while in sleep mode then why the f*** can't you voice chat?
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Jackal 1 day ago#38
LuigiFan835 posted...
That last part is incredibly troubling. If you can make phone calls, listen to music, or let videos play in the background while in sleep mode then why the f*** can't you voice chat?

Even if you minimize the app you can't talk. The screen must stay on and the app open from the one video that I watched.

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If they had included a microphone in the Switch would they have even considered this insanity?
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Tek_Grab posted...
hardcore gaymer

Wut?
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
hardcore gaymer

Wut?

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DuranmanX4 1 day ago#42
phineasfool posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
hardcore gaymer

Wut?

Pornstar that likes to play games?


You could say he is a player
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AkaneJones 1 day ago#43
I would think Nintendo's idea here is to make it so cumbersome that no child actually tries to use it. Then when Hardcore gamers are there to complain they say see you can do it. Though to be honest they receive the same amounts of complaints about this method than not doing it at all. Plus this method doesn't look good when they are trying to charge you for Online all of a sudden.
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ZBug_ 1 day ago#45
reidyboy102998 posted...
It sucks Nintendo went this route.

Agreed
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Miggi3Fr3sh 14 hours ago#47
phineasfool posted...
Miggi3Fr3sh posted...
Tek_Grab posted...
hardcore gaymer

Wut?

Pornstar that likes to play games?

>_> why did you go to porn?!
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