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With the recent news do you think Switch was rushed ??

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alepman1 1 day ago#1
Do you think Switch's security is lacking - Results (122 votes)
Yes
56.56%
69
No
43.44%
53
It seems Switch share more similarities with PSP than VIta,i really hope it doesn't scare 3rd parties away.
what recent news?
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guedesbrawl 1 day ago#4
Security is pointless. Things will get hacked anyway.

But the switch was slightly rushed, imo. For all the good it does, it does not have double screen play like the Wii U did.
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guedesbrawl posted...
Security is pointless. Things will get hacked anyway.

it does not have double screen play like the Wii U did.


because the gamepad was locked to the console itself.

How would the switch do it, the dock is practically just a piece of plastic, and handheld mode is...handheld mode.
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alepman1 1 day ago#6
IrateGameFAQer posted...
what recent news?

Roms dump started this morning,they are useless without functional loader but the hacking scene is as fast as PSP days esp the recent update wasn't enough to fill the security holes,hell even the ver1.0 was a raw os dated mid 2016
ReggieCeo 1 day ago#7
They rushed the Switch so they could release Breath of the Wild


They should have released the game on Wii U only and wait to release the Switch in October.

ARMS, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario+Rabbids and most importantly Super Mario Odyssey could have made the Switch's launch the best launch of all time

And maybe VC and other stuff would have been ready by that time
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ReggieCeo posted...
They rushed the Switch so they could release Breath of the Wild


They should have released the game on Wii U only and wait to release the Switch in October.

ARMS, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario+Rabbids and most importantly Super Mario Odyssey could have made the Switch's launch the best launch of all time

And maybe VC and other stuff would have been ready by that time

It would have been better for Nintendo they released an actually completed switch with mario in the fall. What ever happen from now on is their fault for being so rash.So the switch get hacked in less than a year Nintendo has only themselves to blame.
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alepman1 1 day ago#9
ReggieCeo posted...
They rushed the Switch so they could release Breath of the Wild


They should have released the game on Wii U only and wait to release the Switch in October.

ARMS, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario+Rabbids and most importantly Super Mario Odyssey could have made the Switch's launch the best launch of all time

And maybe VC and other stuff would have been ready by that time

It was more to please the shareholders,WiiU wasn't selling and 3DS sales is declining worldwide. releasing Switch during holiday season is a bit too far.
alepman1 posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...
what recent news?

Roms dump started this morning,they are useless without functional loader but the hacking scene is as fast as PSP days esp the recent update wasn't enough to fill the security holes,hell even the ver1.0 was a raw os dated mid 2016
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went. Though to be honest, I didn't know people still bothered to download games. Just don't see the point, considering how cheap and easily avaliable games are today.
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PS4always 1 day ago#11
Good news then? We'll get 'homebrew' sooner than later. (no, homebrew doesn't automatically mean pirating)
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Starwars4J 1 day ago#12
Another bad topic where the topic title and poll have absolutely nothing to do with each other
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Piracy is the reason we cant back up save data to SD cards. Now we most likely have to pay for cloud saving, great.

How is that that PS4 and xbox never get hacked but every Nintendo system does? Anyone got a serious answer?
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atomicx 1 day ago#15
PS4always posted...
Good news then? We'll get 'homebrew' sooner than later. (no, homebrew doesn't automatically mean pirating)

Homebrew like what? Exactly what kind of Homebrew are you looking forward to?
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PS4always posted...
Good news then? We'll get 'homebrew' sooner than later. (no, homebrew doesn't automatically mean pirating)

Try having one without the other.
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Rushed, sure.

Security lacking? No, securing consoles is a fool's errand. Security patches to keep the amount of hacked consoles low is the best method.
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Faiyez 1 day ago#18
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.


QueenTakhisis posted...
Though to be honest, I didn't know people still bothered to download games. Just don't see the point, considering how cheap and easily avaliable games are today.


They're not cheap or readily available for a lot of people.
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atma6 1 day ago#19
The Switch was rushed. We've always known that. It was a calculated move by Nintendo to release the Switch in its rushed form during a period where console sales are usually flat so they could iron out kinks before the holiday season. The plan has worked out quite well so far, giving them, essentially, a double dip of new console sales from the launch and then again at the holiday season.

Security of the console was probably not high on Nintendo's list of priorities, especially with the barebones online launch, but they did offer a reward for people breaking the system, if I recall correctly, which means they are actively looking to patch stuff like that out for people who are worried about data safety.
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_Dog 1 day ago#20
@sandstormflygon posted...
ReggieCeo posted...
They rushed the Switch so they could release Breath of the Wild


They should have released the game on Wii U only and wait to release the Switch in October.

ARMS, Pokken Tournament, Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, Mario+Rabbids and most importantly Super Mario Odyssey could have made the Switch's launch the best launch of all time

And maybe VC and other stuff would have been ready by that time

It would have been better for Nintendo they released an actually completed switch with mario in the fall. What ever happen from now on is their fault for being so rash.So the switch get hacked in less than a year Nintendo has only themselves to blame.

And continue with the problems with the Wii U? Yeah, sounds completely genius!
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_Dog 1 day ago#21
@metroidman18 posted...
Piracy is the reason we cant back up save data to SD cards. Now we most likely have to pay for cloud saving, great.

How is that that PS4 and xbox never get hacked but every Nintendo system does? Anyone got a serious answer?


Others claimed they hacked the other two.

Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.
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Virus66 1 day ago#22
Most hackers don't open up these things to the public because it destroys the ecosystem. In a few years, that's when it will be opened up.
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_Dog posted...
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.

I'm also curious to see this explanation.
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Faiyez 1 day ago#24
Is this obscure history or something? But hey, if you don't think piracy made a real dent on the DS, then I guess you shouldn't worry about Switch.
I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR!
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Terotrous 1 day ago#25
It doesn't really matter. 3DS and PS3 both got hacked and it didn't hurt them at all. It would have to be really easy to do, like it was on PSP and Wii, for there to be any noticeable effect.
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alepman1 1 day ago#26
freedumbdclxvi posted...
_Dog posted...
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.

I'm also curious to see this explanation.

Unlike PSP piracy which was pretty simple,no extra peripheral needed.DS required a flash cart,to get one kids have to ask their parents to put their credit card info on grey market website which most of cases not gonna happen.
sashj 1 day ago#27
The Switch was definitely rushed IMO.
that has nothing to do on the claim that piracy killed the DS, though.
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You're topic title and poll are asking two different questions. Way to go TC.
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

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ACDCrules1 1 day ago#31
guedesbrawl posted...
For all the good it does, it does not have double screen play like the Wii U did.


Not having two screens is a good thing.
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IrateGameFAQer posted...
guedesbrawl posted...
Security is pointless. Things will get hacked anyway.

it does not have double screen play like the Wii U did.


because the gamepad was locked to the console itself.

How would the switch do it, the dock is practically just a piece of plastic, and handheld mode is...handheld mode.


The bolded makes me say "so what"

As for the rest: i don't work for Nintendo. But it is a feature the console could have had. See how we outright lost some content and conveniences in Breath of the Wild because of this.
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guedesbrawl posted...
IrateGameFAQer posted...
guedesbrawl posted...
Security is pointless. Things will get hacked anyway.

it does not have double screen play like the Wii U did.


because the gamepad was locked to the console itself.

How would the switch do it, the dock is practically just a piece of plastic, and handheld mode is...handheld mode.


The bolded makes me say "so what"

As for the rest: i don't work for Nintendo. But it is a feature the console could have had. See how we outright lost some content and conveniences in Breath of the Wild because of this.

and my response is, it takes more tech, or a completely different system. You can't fundamentally do what what the Wii U did w/ dual screens on the switch. So saying "so what" is kinda stupid if you honestly thought it's a simple ass solution.
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Doubt it's going to do anything to the switch. If the 3rd party dev isn't working on switch titles it's because they had made that decision before it was hacked. Look at the Vita, it's been hacked but it's still supported by japanese 3rd party devs and if it's a good game, people will still buy it.

Western devs can either take a risk like any other business or lose the opportunity to make money from the switch community.

This is like the vita forum all over again....
"omg no games blah blah going to die"
"vita no game"
"vita hack no more 3rd party support"

At the end of the day the vita is still pumping out games even without the support of Sony. So don't worry this won't end like WiiU.
I think it was rushed but not for the reason you think tc.
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alepman1 1 day ago#36
dragon_eyes99 posted...
Doubt it's going to do anything to the switch. If the 3rd party dev isn't working on switch titles it's because they had made that decision before it was hacked. Look at the Vita, it's been hacked but it's still supported by japanese 3rd party devs and if it's a good game, people will still buy it.

Western devs can either take a risk like any other business or lose the opportunity to make money from the switch community.

This is like the vita forum all over again....
"omg no games blah blah going to die"
"vita no game"
"vita hack no more 3rd party support"

At the end of the day the vita is still pumping out games even without the support of Sony. So don't worry this won't end like WiiU.

Vita is different story for many reasons:
1-Memory cards are expensive and cheap pirates weren't ready to spend $100 on 64GB
2-PS plus,most have Vita games were distributed for free
3-PSN sales it's not Steam but close,i rarely spent more than $10-12 on a Vita game
4-unlike Switch Vita isn't a powerhouse and most emulators run on PSP mod
Add to that Firmware requirement and PSN ban means all your PS3,PSV,PS4 games are gone with the online access
emagdnE 1 day ago#37
Reminder that Pokémon Moon was leaked a week early and Sun/Moon is set to sell somewhere around 16-18 million lifetime sales.

Piracy has less of an impact than you think.

How is that that PS4 and xbox never get hacked but every Nintendo system does? Anyone got a serious answer?

People want to play Nintendo games but they hate Nintendo's practices and feel that Nintendo does not deserve their money.

It's more about the principle of the matter than "being cheap".

Also, Pokémon. Hackers got to datamine all the new pokémon and post them ASAP and tools like PKHex exist for a reason. (Good move on Hyper Training Game Freak, but bad move on making it require level 100 and making getting to level 100 take longer than breeding a god damn 5/6 IV pokémon with the return of cancerous G5 EXP mechanics.....)
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Faiyez 1 day ago#38
emagdnE posted...
Piracy has less of an impact than you think.


These days.
I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR!
-GlowStormLion on Japan's kinks.
alepman1 posted...
dragon_eyes99 posted...
Doubt it's going to do anything to the switch. If the 3rd party dev isn't working on switch titles it's because they had made that decision before it was hacked. Look at the Vita, it's been hacked but it's still supported by japanese 3rd party devs and if it's a good game, people will still buy it.

Western devs can either take a risk like any other business or lose the opportunity to make money from the switch community.

This is like the vita forum all over again....
"omg no games blah blah going to die"
"vita no game"
"vita hack no more 3rd party support"

At the end of the day the vita is still pumping out games even without the support of Sony. So don't worry this won't end like WiiU.

Vita is different story for many reasons:
1-Memory cards are expensive and cheap pirates weren't ready to spend $100 on 64GB
2-PS plus,most have Vita games were distributed for free
3-PSN sales it's not Steam but close,i rarely spent more than $10-12 on a Vita game
4-unlike Switch Vita isn't a powerhouse and most emulators run on PSP mod
Add to that Firmware requirement and PSN ban means all your PS3,PSV,PS4 games are gone with the online access


1. They don't have to worry about that anymore with the vita2sd.
2. Ps plus for vita was 80% indies that most people did not enjoy. As for the non indie games it was usually uncharted, gravity rush, freedom wars and soul sacrifice that was free.
3.PSN sales weren't that great for the vita either when it first launched. It only got better in recent years.
4.Same could be said for the switch and nintendo's eshop.
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ROB45 1 day ago#40
Well, unlike with PSN, I would be okay with using my credit card on Nintendo Network.
Faiyez 1 day ago#41
ROB45 posted...
Well, unlike with PSN, I would be okay with using my credit card on Nintendo Network.


What? Nintendo can't get hacked now? Awesome.
I think they've taken the freedom and liberty thing a BIT TOO FAR!
-GlowStormLion on Japan's kinks.
Again, the slightest progress and people run around claiming Switch was hacked.
Dumps /= fully hacked system and are usually the first things to happen. There are XB1 and PS4 dumps out there.

It's interesting how the discussion changed to "not a lot of people pirate so it's no big deal." I guess when you can't fall back on "millions of people need region free" you latch onto anything. Even "I like useless homebrew/emulators that rely on pirated ROMs which I can play anywhere."
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Everytime something comes out it feels "rushed".
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Board_hunter567 posted...
Again, the slightest progress and people run around claiming Switch was hacked.
Dumps /= fully hacked system and are usually the first things to happen. There are XB1 and PS4 dumps out there.

It's interesting how the discussion changed to "not a lot of people pirate so it's no big deal." I guess when you can't fall back on "millions of people need region free" you latch onto anything. Even "I like useless homebrew/emulators that rely on pirated ROMs which I can play anywhere."

I'm don't lie about it. If I'm dealing with cfw, there's a good chance I'll be pirating games. But most of them I get just to try them out, or it'll be a game that I have purchased before in the past but no longer own.

In the psp days, I only pirated games I owned or planned to buy, because the umd media was terribly designed and would fail mechanically.

Theres no use in lying about it. No one mods their console just to get home brew and region unlocked.
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ROB45 1 day ago#45
Faiyez posted...
ROB45 posted...
Well, unlike with PSN, I would be okay with using my credit card on Nintendo Network.


What? Nintendo can't get hacked now? Awesome.

Why would you think that?
alepman1 posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
_Dog posted...
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.

I'm also curious to see this explanation.

Unlike PSP piracy which was pretty simple,no extra peripheral needed.DS required a flash cart,to get one kids have to ask their parents to put their credit card info on grey market website which most of cases not gonna happen.

That's not at all *explaining* how piracy killed the DS.
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alepman1 1 day ago#47
freedumbdclxvi posted...
alepman1 posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
_Dog posted...
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.

I'm also curious to see this explanation.

Unlike PSP piracy which was pretty simple,no extra peripheral needed.DS required a flash cart,to get one kids have to ask their parents to put their credit card info on grey market website which most of cases not gonna happen.

That's not at all *explaining* how piracy killed the DS.

because it didn't
It was rushed and it will be hacked before the year is up.
All the pirating that's going to happen Nintendo will be like Sony and install a new update each week.
The PS Vita was getting that because it was cracked a long time ago, Sony just keep making updates.
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_Candice_ 1 day ago#49
As a whole it was rushed.

The hardware is junk.
The VC selection is piss poor.
The media functionality is non-existent.
They completely forgot about chat so they band-aid fixed it with a dumb app.
And from what it seems the security is pretty similar to the 3DS and Wii U.

How people paid this much to beta test a console, I dont know. Not even OUYA backers were this dumb.
alepman1 posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
alepman1 posted...
freedumbdclxvi posted...
_Dog posted...
Faiyez posted...
QueenTakhisis posted...
Wait... are you talking about piracy? In that case... no, it won't affect the Switch much. People were openly selling those piracy-cards to play any pirated game on DS, and see how that went.


Piracy did kill the original DS.

Please explain further.

I'm also curious to see this explanation.

Unlike PSP piracy which was pretty simple,no extra peripheral needed.DS required a flash cart,to get one kids have to ask their parents to put their credit card info on grey market website which most of cases not gonna happen.

That's not at all *explaining* how piracy killed the DS.

because it didn't

I know. I'm just waiting for Faiyez to come back and back up that comment.
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