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asednopee122 posted...
are Pokémon BST even canon? Fun fact: The "speed" stat is really a measure of reaction speed, not top speed. It's how you have pokemon like Metagross that can use Bullet Punch, but which are kinda slow on the uptake.
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Primal_GroudonX posted...>100 offenses Mediocre offensively, that's what. 100 Base points in Sp/Atk isn't enough for a dedicated attacker to do what it needs to; 120 is really your baseline number for those stats. Now, that said you can certainly have strong pokemon that have lower raw power, but those will be good because they're bulky or have good utility or (more probably) both, like (some of) the Base-100 Legendary pokemon. They might also have an ability that makes their real power higher than what is shown on paper.
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Pink_Infernape posted...
the point was, pokemon like victini arent hindered by their supposed "mediorce" stats and do just as well yall as heavy hitterz That is because it has super powerful attacks and coverage
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Pink_Infernape posted...
the point was, pokemon like victini arent hindered by their supposed "mediorce" stats yes they are, offensively at least Pink_Infernape posted... stats and do just as well yall as heavy hitterz do you think that maybe, just maybe, the 180 bp stab move might have something to do with it
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
tc is silvally good No bc its 95 not 100 aka not good as discussed DRulerLightning posted... really makes you think when the mon with extreme bias for stupidly strong move and cover legend stabs has never been higher than BL in the only format where it can even be used they r all BL lol
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MegaMewtwoX posted...
Pink_Infernape posted...No bc its 95 not 100 aka not good as discussed if you need 100% in a class to be good, n you have 95% you aint good lmao DRulerLightning posted... mew and jirachi are bl :thinking: no they arent in fake tier aka smogon they r banned from the REAL FORMATT MegaMewtwoX posted... tc is kadabra good yes As is Infernape, since they are above 100 hello do you not see the flaws in ur case... do you feel jow strong they r lol
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I haven't played in a while, but when I used to play:
HP: 108+ Garchomp will always be the gold standard for this. All of his bulk comes primarily from this. Excadrill too, at 110. Neither of them have supreme defenses, but having so much HP lets them take hits deceptively well. Especially for guys with so much speed and power. ATK: 130+ You can augment attack really easy with stat buffing moves. But the best way is Choice Band for the instant power. Generally, the 130+ base attack Choice Banders got the job done best. CB Mence, CB Tar, CB Heracross, etc were all great. So I guess give or take 5 points since Heracross was 125 and Salamence was 135. DEF: 125+ For some reason, better DEF has always been more valuable than better SP.DEF. Mainly because Swords Dance is way more accessible than Nasty Plot. Gliscor is my example for this one. He gets by on his DEF alone and its not uncommon for people to avoid running Roost. SP.ATK: 130+ Same as ATK more or less. Latios and Gengar have been premiere Special Attackers, so I'll use them as examples. Specs Hetran was always a good pick too. SP.DEF: 100+ Doesn't really matter, honestly. 100 base is a nice benchmark, but you can make less work with CM/Recovery Move, solid resists, and a lot of HP. Heatran's got 106 and Jirachi's got 100. That is usually good enough to get the job done. SPEED: 111+ Basically enough to beat Gengar. Less speed can still be good depending on the other stats, but for something that wants to be fast, this is the minimum
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@asednopee122 posted...are Pokémon BST even canon?
Cause, Magikarp is the world weakest Pokémon.
But there are Pokémon with lower BST then it, so BST can't be canon or at least accurate.
It's still the weakest because it can't beat those with lower BSTs than it, with 2 known mons so far in which both possess the movepool to confirm with the dex entry.
BSTs are canonNidoqueen is a large, bipedal, purple Pokemon with distinct reptilian features. It has narrow eyes, large, spiny ears, fur-like tufts on its cheeks, and a shortPink_Infernape posted...excuses
if someone has 100 $, they have 100$
Does not matter how they got it if we are measuring how much money they have
Or how they use it for that matter.
"But but <insert excuse here> carries this mon!!!!"
Ok so you have 1000000 zimbabwean dollars. Tell me when you are relevant.Nidoqueen is a large, bipedal, purple Pokemon with distinct reptilian features. It has narrow eyes, large, spiny ears, fur-like tufts on its cheeks, and a shortKu-Ri-Boh posted...Pink_Infernape posted...
excuses
if someone has 100 $, they have 100$
Does not matter how they got it if we are measuring how much money they have
Or how they use it for that matter.
"But but <insert excuse here> carries this mon!!!!"
Ok so you have 1000000 zimbabwean dollars. Tell me when you are relevant.
I fly to east africa n use the cash thereOfficial Infernape of every boardPink_Infernape posted...excuses
if someone has 100 $, they have 100$
Does not matter how they got it if we are measuring how much money they have
Or how they use it for that matter.
"But but <insert excuse here> carries this mon!!!!"
ITT: 1/45/30 bulk is godlike because Shedinja takes no damage from 80% of attacks.I liek MudkipzPink_Infernape posted...Ku-Ri-Boh posted...
Pink_Infernape posted...
excuses
if someone has 100 $, they have 100$
Does not matter how they got it if we are measuring how much money they have
Or how they use it for that matter.
"But but <insert excuse here> carries this mon!!!!"
Ok so you have 1000000 zimbabwean dollars. Tell me when you are relevant.
I fly to east africa n use the cash there
You couldn't even by a gumball from a machine with 1,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars
Due to hyper-inflation, at one point trading in 35,000,000,000,000,000 Zimbabwe dollars would give you 1 US dollar. Needless to say the country dropped the currency eventually and now uses US money, but you can buy a 100 Trillion dollar bank note for 10-100 dollars online(Its not actually worth that much, but most people suckered into buying it don't know that) and joke that you're a Zimbabwe trillionaire
Anyways, to be more on-topic, I feel that due to stat creep, 120+ is good for offenses and speed, and 95+ is good for defenses and HP.- Boards
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