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Thursday, August 10, 2017

Rotomdex was a mistake.

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SageHarpuia 1 day ago#1
The Dexnav, Poketch, and Pokegear are vastly superior. Ironically it's still better than the C-gear.
My name is Harpuia, one of the four Guardians of Master X and General of the Strong Air Battalion, The Rekku Army.
I wouldn't mind Rotomdex if you could just make it shut up. It's the Navi of Pokemon.
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List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex
Festival Plaza
Z-Moves
Zygarde cells
Trials
Cutscenes
Royale
Hyper Training
Grenanime
Moon's snowflake clock
Tappor_Koko 1 day ago#4
Ilima is such a dreamboat!
IT IS TIME...
Tappor_Koko 1 day ago#5
CloverKitten posted...
List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex
Festival Plaza
Z-Moves
Zygarde cells
Trials
Cutscenes
Royale
Hyper Training
Grenanime
Moon's snowflake clock

so basically, literally everything. Including things that have been in the game since gen 4 (muh cutscenes)

impossible lul
IT IS TIME...
Tappor_Koko posted...
Including things that have been in the game since gen 4 (muh cutscenes)

Gen 7 has made it worse than ever.

impossible lul

Are you defending Festival Plaza?

so basically, literally everything.

Just the first 10 things that came to mind. Shall I continue?
Tappor_Koko 1 day ago#7
CloverKitten posted...
Are you defending Festival Plaza?

did i say that or did i say that its impossible for sm to be completely bad

CloverKitten posted...
Just the first 10 things that came to mind. Shall I continue?

I wanna see how nitpicky you'll get so yes

CloverKitten posted...
Gen 7 has made it worse than ever.

its kinda like pokemon is a jrpg
IT IS TIME...
@Andrex_93
What do you think of the RotomDex?
Tappor_Koko posted...
did i say that or did i say that its impossible for sm to be completely bad

Did I say that everything was bad? Sounds like you're the pessimist here.

I wanna see how nitpicky you'll get so yes

TIL having standards is nitpicky.

its kinda like pokemon is a jrpg

Raise your hand if you play Pokemon for unskippable/unmashable story.

...

See, no one raised their hand.
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Kukui he is a mistake 
Overrated 

Summer xander and leo much hotter for male fan service. Now if kukui looked like that I even get Pokémon ultra.
CloverKitten posted...
Did I say that everything was bad? Sounds like you're the pessimist here.

well you listed like half of the game so

CloverKitten posted...
TIL having standards is nitpicky.

name your standards using one pokemon game

CloverKitten posted...
Raise your hand if you play Pokemon for unskippable/unmashable story.

...

See, no one raised their hand.

wrong, plenty of people here play for the story
and if we're talking about bad ways to play pretty much everyone including myself plays it the wrong way
IT IS TIME...
Juliansgirl posted...
Kukui he is a mistake 
Overrated 

Summer xander and leo much hotter for male fan service. Now if kukui looked like that I even get Pokémon ultra.

>fire emblem
lul
IT IS TIME...
Tappor_Koko posted...
Including things that have been in the game since gen 4 (muh cutscenes)

pre-bw cutscenes were sparse and directly related to the games story which is fine
20 min of n saying the same contradictory nonsense over and over or "get in the bag xD" choking up the game is not acceptable
~TFS~
Z0as 1 day ago#14
CloverKitten posted...
List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex
Festival Plaza
Z-Moves
Zygarde cells
Trials
Cutscenes
Royale
Hyper Training
Grenanime
Moon's snowflake clock

Do you even like Pokémon?? You listed really great stuff. RotomDex and Festival Plaza are a mistake, but everything else is good(except for the anime quality). How the heck you don't like Z-moves??
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zygarde cells were also a mistake

MegaMewtwoX posted...
Tappor_Koko posted...
Including things that have been in the game since gen 4 (muh cutscenes)

pre-bw cutscenes were sparse and directly related to the games story which is fine
20 min of n saying the same contradictory nonsense over and over or "get in the bag xD" choking up the game is not acceptable

playing these games the wrong way is what encouraged this in the first place
IT IS TIME...
Tappor_Koko posted...
well you listed like half of the game so

Sounds like you're starting to realize how many mistakes were made and then shoehorned throughout the game.

wrong, plenty of people here play for the story

1) lol, name some people who play for "I don't like to see Pokemon fight but I'll watch anyway"
2) I said "unskippable/unmashable" story anyway; even if you find people to answer 1), how do you defend making slow camera pans and random NPC model twitches unskippable?

name your standards using one pokemon game

I call out all Pokemon games for their mistakes. HGSS are my favorites/the best but they still have a terrible level curve (which is only a significant issue when prepping for what's an optional boss anyway), stupid placement of "Johto" mons (it ~kind of~ made sense in GS but is flat-out stupid in HGSS), etc.
tappor unironically likes sm story dont listen to his s***posts
~TFS~
I liked Omega Rubs and Alpha Subs pokedex.
Gen V's b2/w2 pokedex was good too
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CloverKitten posted...
List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex
Festival Plaza
Z-Moves
Zygarde cells
Trials
Cutscenes
Royale
Hyper Training
Grenanime
Moon's snowflake clock

Continuing

Pokemon Snap v0.1
SOS
Salandit evolution/gender ratio
Cart-version evolutions
Alola mon scarcity
Mandatory button-holding to achieve top speed
Scaling exp in post-game (specifically how it makes Hyper Training worse)
Withholding megastones like audinite but not ones like salamencite
So much camera rotation but no Tauros loop
The rigid-sequence slog that is catching UBs
Z0as posted...
Do you even like Pokémon?? You listed really great stuff. everything else is good. How the heck you don't like Z-moves??

I don't recognize this account, is this a troll?
Roziel 1 day ago#21
CloverKitten posted...
CloverKitten posted...
List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex I can see why it talking all the time annoys people. I liked how it made story pointers and kept you on track because I have a 2 second memory most the time. He really needed to shut up post game though
Festival Plaza I hate this thing, makes Wonder Trade so tedious
Z-Moves Don't see the problem with these, you can only do it once per battle. Taking up the item slot is annoying though
Zygarde cells Words can not describe how much I hate this sidequest
Trials I rather liked them, made things a bit more unique. More battles would have been good though. Could do with no extra pokemon for bloody grass trial though
Cutscenes I'm one of those weirdoes who plays pokemon 50% for the story, that long cutscene after you beat the E4 for the first time is nightmarish though
Royale Liked the concept, the real thing didn't keep my interest though
Hyper Training Don't play competitively but I know they handled this badly.
Grenanime Ash-Greninja? Yeah I hate it. 
Moon's snowflake clock no comment

Continuing

Pokemon Snap v0.1 never played Snap, it was fun though
SOS I'm mixed on this. Like how you can chain stuff but I hate that certain pokemon were locked behind it.
Salandit evolution/gender ratio Yeah they already made this mistake with Vespiquen :/
Cart-version evolutions surprised this didn't exist already
Alola mon scarcity agreed
Mandatory button-holding to achieve top speed For Tauros? Not really different to bikes and running but yeah its annoying
Scaling exp in post-game (specifically how it makes Hyper Training worse) agreed
Withholding megastones like audinite but not ones like salamencite THIS. Most my favourite mega evolutions were blocked behind codes T.T
So much camera rotation but no Tauros loop No opinion
The rigid-sequence slog that is catching UBs Oh God I liked UBs but not trying to remember whether I triggered their appearances or not

You named some pretty bad stuff but some of it isn't too bad, that's my personal opinion though. Wrote my opinion in black, won't blame you if you disagree with me.
... I don't understand that reference.
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SageHarpuia 1 day ago#22
SOS


SOS wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for some very situational bulls***
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SageHarpuia posted...
SOS


SOS wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for some very situational bulls***

Problems with SOS:

1) Why the hell can't I send out two mons?
2) Why can wild mons both attack and SOS in the same turn if I don't use an Adrenaline Orb?
3) Why isn't the Adrenaline Orb a Key Item like RBY PokeFlute?
4) Why are the chain requirements so f***ing long? 4IV/30% HA sound appropriate for a 10+ chain, not 30.
5) How the f*** do you justify 1)-4) while making it impossible to catch multiple mons per chain? Just let me throw Pokeballs when there are 2 wilds on the field, for f***sake, cap it at like 10 captures if there are Box issues.

5 big problems right there. There's some merit to the idea of SOS, but its current incarnation is almost as broken as Festival Plaza.
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Roziel 1 day ago#24
CloverKitten posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
SOS


SOS wouldn't be a problem if it weren't for some very situational bulls***

Problems with SOS:

1) Why the hell can't I send out two mons?
2) Why can wild mons both attack and SOS in the same turn if I don't use an Adrenaline Orb?
3) Why isn't the Adrenaline Orb a Key Item like RBY PokeFlute?
4) Why are the chain requirements so f***ing long? 4IV/30% HA sound appropriate for a 10+ chain, not 30.
5) How the f*** do you justify 4)'s long chains while making it impossible to catch multiple mons per chain? Just let me throw Pokeballs when there are 2 wilds on the field, for f***sake.

5 big problems right there. There's some merit to the idea of SOS, but its current incarnation is almost as broken as Festival Plaza.

Don't forget the SOS exclusive Pokemon. SOS was rather badly executed I think.
... I don't understand that reference.
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miraimike 1 day ago#25
I want a national dex and better online integration. This gen was a step backward in that regard
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LeoFrances 1 day ago#26
Rotomdex reminds me of Claptrap from Borderlands.
dorkman 1 day ago#27
Z0as posted...
CloverKitten posted...
List of Gen 7 mistakes (I'll start)

RotomDex
Festival Plaza
Z-Moves
Zygarde cells
Trials
Cutscenes
Royale
Hyper Training
Grenanime
Moon's snowflake clock

Do you even like Pokémon?? You listed really great stuff. RotomDex and Festival Plaza are a mistake, but everything else is good(except for the anime quality). How the heck you don't like Z-moves??

Z-Moves are rather stupid imo. Its just a "heres your nuke button" and thats all. Mega Evolution is better in every way to Z Moves.
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Lexifox 1 day ago#28
I like how they made the bottom screen a minimap and then added the Rotomdex and it reduced the part of screen that can show the map by like 20%

dorkman posted...
Z-Moves are rather stupid imo. Its just a "heres your nuke button" and thats all. Mega Evolution is better in every way to Z Moves.


A one-time nuke is better than a nuke that persists and creates too heavy a punishment.
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Lexifox posted...
I like how they made the bottom screen a minimap and then added the Rotomdex and it reduced the part of screen that can show the map by like 50%

You had a typo.
Lexifox 1 day ago#30
CloverKitten posted...
Lexifox posted...
I like how they made the bottom screen a minimap and then added the Rotomdex and it reduced the part of screen that can show the map by like 50%

You had a typo.


I had a I have not looked at the Rotomdex screen in forever 

po
"Murder of the living is tragic, but murder of the idea is unforgivable." - Janus, speaker of the synod
Yeah Rotomdex did not contributed anything useful, I don't get why they even bothered with a map being how damn simple navigating the region is. Like the only places that it WOULD be useful at are the dungeon areas but it doesn't even display them.

Not just that but they replaced all of the useful Gen 6 bottom screen functions (PSS, Super Training, And especially the Dex Nav) with a stupid and useless map.
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Andrex_93 1 day ago#32
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

Definitely just give me a bottom map without the fluff.
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Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

lol
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Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr But you can never turn it off

Explain.
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Andrex_93 1 day ago#35
CloverKitten posted...
Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr But you can never turn it off

Explain.

Somebody saying a pun somewhere is fine, you can laugh or you can ignore it if you don't find it funny.

Having a useless pun-machine that you can never change for something else on your bottom screen is just annoying.
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SageHarpuia 19 hours ago#37
DRulerLightning posted...
Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

lol
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MegaMewtwoX 19 hours ago#38
SageHarpuia posted...
DRulerLightning posted...
Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

lol
~TFS~
SNRGTCgamer 19 hours ago#39
Nextgrandcross posted...
I don't get why they even bothered with a map being how damn simple navigating the region is.

At least Sinnoh's Poketch allowed the player to mark the map with legendary Pokemon locations, berry locations, and other notable locations the player may have in mind.
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Hypnosister 19 hours ago#40
MegaMewtwoX posted...
SageHarpuia posted...
DRulerLightning posted...
Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

lol
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TrueRyuMaster 18 hours ago#41
Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

Definitely just give me a bottom map without the fluff.


Yo bro @Missingno_Mastr this guy is talking s***.
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Andrex_93 posted...
It's like having a Missigno_Mastr on your bottom screen.

But you can never turn it off, and it's a pain to press in the right points to get what you want, so it's annoying.

Definitely just give me a bottom map without the fluff.

Excuse me?
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Andrex_93 26 minutes ago#43
Lmfao.

I technically wasn't offending you, @Missingno_Mastr.

You often do puns, right? Well, Rotom-Dex kind of felt like having a post of yours on the bottom screen. Problem is, while your posts are harmless, Rotom-Dex is annoying to deal with, stops you from saving without crashing and is annoying to get it right when you want something useful from it (good luck activating the complete map easily).

Don't take it as a too personal offense, lol.
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Tappor_Koko 25 minutes ago#44
MegaMewtwoX posted...
tappor unironically likes sm story dont listen to his s***posts

it is better than unironically liking anything gsc spawned ever
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Prismsblade 6 minutes ago#45
Idk what the point of the rotomdex was, have trainers by gen7 grown so damn lazy that they can't be bothered to point and scan pokemons themselves....im seriosuly getting this impression it was.

The zygarde cores wouldn't so be bad if not for the night/day system. This mechanic without the ability to freely control the day cycle is awful by default, no matter what.

And the plot felt like filler even by most pokemon game standards, if not for lillie you would have been able to just ignore team skull completely. They were really just trolls in the end. 

Fortunate most townsfolk, or law enforcement just flat out didn't give a damn.
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