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I've noticed on this board that people attribute Miyamoto to "NSMB-izing" the 3D Mario games with 3D Land and 3D World, this is actually not the case
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and before people post and say "nobody said Miyamoto was responsible what u talkin' about", why don't you ask @Endgame or @LimboStudios first
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Hold on while I find a 6-year old article to disprove your claim.
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Eww... can't believe that guy thought Super Mario Galaxy 2 was too hard for gamers. That explains the baby easy difficulty of Land/World.
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Sounds like he's referring to difficulty though.
When I hear NSMBized I think about the soulless formula of using the same worlds and same (minimal) cast over and over again that seems to being pushed not just on the platformers but every Mario game in recent years. Which I imagine WAS some mandate from either Miyamoto or some other out-of-touch corporate dick everybody has to listen to, otherwise, why would they all be doing it? |
I don't care for Miyamoto. But whatever.
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Just makes you wonder if trolls actually knew this information, but went along with blaming Miyamoto anyways simply because it was material they could use.....
Could also be why Odyssey is such a threat to them....
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What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere.
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ChuckRoast posted...
What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere. It's a crusade. Otherwise they'd have to troll about something else.
Surely there's no problem with them putting me in Brawl, right?
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SmallerRidley posted...
ChuckRoast posted...What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere. It's called an opinion actually, 3D World really isn't anything special. Let my man videogamedunkey enlighten you... https://youtu.be/7o8IcA66K9A?t=6m57s
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ChuckRoast posted...
What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere. 3D World had it's detractors from the get-go. What do Sunshine fanboys have to do with any of this? |
DiscostewSM posted...
Just makes you wonder if trolls actually knew this information, but went along with blaming Miyamoto anyways simply because it was material they could use..... Odyssey is more of a threat to you raging Miyamoto apologists who want the Mario series to be a homogenized piece of shit instead of a fountain of creativity and great characters.
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LimboStudios posted...
I believe this is what the kids call "Getting triggered"
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Gamers really will just say anything they want and believe it to be fact.
Remember, these are the same idiots who treats it as fact that Miyamoto dislikes DKC |
ChuckRoast posted...
What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere. Lately? We've always hated that game.
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I'm guessing that when Odyssey was announced, it crystallized their dislike for 3D World but back then, they were kinda just on the whiney side. I'm the person who thought Mario should try something new and 3D World played too safe for my tastes, but it's still a very solid game that I recommend. It's just some people are much more extreme and less reasonable.
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Dumdumwantgum posted...
SmallerRidley posted...ChuckRoast posted...What's up with all of the 3D World hate lately? Not to mention a lot of Sunshine fanboys are popping out of nowhere. It's a crusade. Your sincerity has nothing to do with it.
Surely there's no problem with them putting me in Brawl, right?
It's ****ing satire, damnit. 6 times 3 isn't 200 either! |
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
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Hum?
3D Land & 3D World are far closer to what the New Super Mario Bros. series should have been. The only viable issue are the Overworld Maps are just sort of the there for functionality, and there is a bit to much "floating objects in space" direction with levels visuals. Obviously it wouldn't seem like the later if the levels were actually 2D, and the end of stage was scroll locked so the camera and player couldn't go beyond. |
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LimboStudios posted... Also ironic that trolls give a crap for creativity.....
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.....When did I blame Miyamoto for 3D Land 1 and 2 again?
PS. Calling people "trolls" when they're being positive towards Nintendo just cements the case that the word has no value coming from you people. "Oh gee, why do trolls care about creativity?" lolwow. This is almost as bad as the time the NDF said content was a "buzzword" in relation to Splatoon and its minimalistic launch.
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3D Land and 3D World are great entries in the franchise with 3d World being better than Sunshine and 64
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. No, 3D World style should be erased from history as a stain that once soiled the stellar 3D Mario series.
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LimboStudios posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Nah It's better than 64 and Sunshine
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Maverick_Reznor posted...
LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Said a delusional NDF soldier. Claiming the videogame equivalent of a bland plastic toy is better than some of the best games of all time. Just wanna retcon every ounce of effort and actual creativity from Nintendo's history?
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Maverick_Reznor posted...LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Again, trolls wanting creativity when they themselves haven't been for years.....and I'm not saying there shouldn't be creativity. Just pointing out the irony here.
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Miyamoto hasn't touched a mario game in a long ass time.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Sorry that I prefer immersiveness and creativity over levels and levels of baby easy platforming. I like it better when the designers actually incorporate platforming into the worlds without shoving it down your throat. That's how Super Mario 64 did it, that's how Super Mario Sunshine did it, that's how a true 3D Mario game does it.
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DiscostewSM posted...
LimboStudios posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. What irony? The one where your precious company thinks creativity is waggling a controller when it's actually advancing and creating game mechanics?
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Maverick_Reznor posted...
LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Nope. 64 AND Sunshine trounce it. Odyssey will show 3D World what a true 3D Mario game is.
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LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. Ahahahahaha good one man. |
3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer.
Only issue I had with it is no online.
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sonicfanaticjtb posted...LimboStudios posted... Ironic coming from a known fantroll. @Maverick_Reznor as well is a known fantroll. |
VanderZoo posted...
3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer. I'd beg to differ, also what are you doing expecting online in a multiplayer mainline Mario game. Of course Nintendo is only gonna do couch multiplayer. |
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VanderZoo posted...3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer. That's a bad expectation tho, any multiplayer game not having an online option is pretty unforgivable in 2017.
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n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. 3D Land and World are what the 3D sequels to SMB3 and SMW should be. That is a real 3D Mario game. 64 and Sunshine have their own market, but the aren't 3D Mario. They are 3D games with Mario in them. They do not play like any of the Mario games that came before them.
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BowserNeo posted...VanderZoo posted...3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer. Come on Limbo, it's Nintendo, expect online multiplayer in a game like that and you are bound to be disappointed. |
n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. It seems you do not know what a true 3D Mario game is. You will learn come this October.
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What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. Isn't it kind of ironic that 3D World fans give people flack for calling 3D World not a "real" 3D Mario game, and then they proceed to make posts like this? |
Ok enough with this "true" and "real" bs
A 3d Mario game is a 3d Mario game no matter if it plays like 3d world or 64 or any of the other ones
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. HALLELUJAH! Thank fucking Christ a sane individual! agree 100%, couldn't have said ti better myself.
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. It's funny because it's true.
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Dumdumwantgum posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. A real 3D Mario game plays like a Mario game. SM64 and Sunshine do not play like Mario games, they are completely different. Odyssey will also be completely different. They aren't any more of a Mario game than Strikers or Kart.
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n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. There were at least 7 games before 64 (SMB, 2, USA, 3, World, Land and Land 2) with an established formula. 64 did not play like that, it decided to do something new. It's not my fault you can't wrap your brain around that. Unlike the kids bashing 3D World I didn't say anything negative about 64 and Sunshine, but if it makes you feel better you can believe there is irony in my post.
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n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. They have to justify an inferior game's existence somehow.
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VanderZoo posted...3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer. That's Nintendo's fault, not mine. If you can do offline multiplayer then you can do online. That's the expectation.
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Look, my main thing is that I simply had far more fun playing 3D World than any of the others. And I played 64 first (technically DS, but I consider DS better than the original in every way except voices), then Galaxy, then sunshine, then Galaxy 2, you can figure out the rest. If I had more fun with 3D World than the others, then so be it. You all sit here arguing about what it a "true 3D mario game" like religious nuts argue over who the one true god is. If you look at the history of Christianity, Judaism, and Islam, they should all technically worship the same god. Similarly, while the 3D mario games have different styles, they are all still mario games with an X, Y, and Z axis. They are games, that are platforms, with Mario, in 3D. There is no "true formula" to stick to for a 3D Mario. That causes repetitiveness and staleness. I mean, y'all complain about the NSMB games being derivative, shouldn't we avoid that with 3D mario?
Anyway, I had the most fun with 3D World. I think all the games are good, and that everyone here needs to chill out and let people enjoy what they enjoy. |
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n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now. And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll. |
Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
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All I was trying to prove was that those who were against 3D World: Blame Koichi Hayashida, not Shigeru Miyamotoand in particular I mean @Endgame and @LimboStudios who blame Miyamoto for all the wrong doings in the Mario seriesTrippotato posted...DiscostewSM posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
It's funny because it's true.
And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll.
I'd imagine trolls wouldn't take me seriously, but most everyone else would, since I'm not about doom and gloom."When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.DiscostewSM posted...Trippotato posted...
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
It's funny because it's true.
And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll.
I'd imagine trolls wouldn't take me seriously, but most everyone else would, since I'm not about doom and gloom.
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.(edited 3 days ago)quoteTrippotato posted...DiscostewSM posted...
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Odyssey is more of a threat to you raging Miyamoto apologists who want the Mario series to be a homogenized piece of shit instead of a fountain of creativity and great characters.
I believe this is what the kids call "Getting triggered"
Also ironic that trolls give a crap for creativity.....
Ironic coming from a known fantroll.
@Maverick_Reznor as well is a known fantroll.
I'm a fantroll cause I dump on your ignorant trolling ass?Currently Playing :Fortnite (PC) & Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age(edited 3 days ago)quoteMaverick_Reznor posted...Trippotato posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
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Odyssey is more of a threat to you raging Miyamoto apologists who want the Mario series to be a homogenized piece of shit instead of a fountain of creativity and great characters.
I believe this is what the kids call "Getting triggered"
Also ironic that trolls give a crap for creativity.....
Ironic coming from a known fantroll.
@Maverick_Reznor as well is a known fantroll.
I'm a fantroll cause I dump on your ignorant trolling ass?
A+ fantrolling Reznor. I think I might just cry myself to sleep.Trippotato posted...DiscostewSM posted...
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
It's funny because it's true.
And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll.
I'd imagine trolls wouldn't take me seriously, but most everyone else would, since I'm not about doom and gloom.
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.
There is criticism, and then there's shitposting. So many who claim to be "passionate Nintendo fans" rarely do the former, as all they ever seem to be is negative. Heck, you made this thread to show that something people thought was true actually wasn't, yet many still cling to the original idea and shit on anyone that opposes it."When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.(edited 3 days ago)quoteDiscostewSM posted...Trippotato posted...
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What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
It's funny because it's true.
And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll.
I'd imagine trolls wouldn't take me seriously, but most everyone else would, since I'm not about doom and gloom.
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.
There is criticism, and then there's shitposting. So many who claim to be "passionate Nintendo fans" rarely do the former, as all they ever seem to be is negative.
Sounds like what a fantroll would say.
News flash: You can be a passionate fan without sucking up to everything Nintendo does.Trippotato posted...DiscostewSM posted...
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n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
It's funny because it's true.
And who's going to take you seriously? Knowing your status as a fantroll.
I'd imagine trolls wouldn't take me seriously, but most everyone else would, since I'm not about doom and gloom.
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.
There is criticism, and then there's shitposting. So many who claim to be "passionate Nintendo fans" rarely do the former, as all they ever seem to be is negative.
Sounds like what a fantroll would say.
News flash: You can be a passionate fan without sucking up to everything Nintendo does.
Yet your own thread proved that maybe people should know the truth before they start "criticizing". Passionate or not, people blamed Miyamoto for these games for so many years, and many still cling to the negativity from their initial assumption."When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.BowserNeo posted...LimboStudios posted...
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VanderZoo posted...
3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer.
Only issue I had with it is no online.
I'd beg to differ, also what are you doing expecting online in a multiplayer mainline Mario game. Of course Nintendo is only gonna do couch multiplayer.
That's a bad expectation tho, any multiplayer game not having an online option is pretty unforgivable in 2017.
Come on Limbo, it's Nintendo, expect online multiplayer in a game like that and you are bound to be disappointed.
Gonna blame Ubisoft for Rayman not having online or do they get a free pass because it ain't Nintendo?Any information provided on GFaqs can and will be used against you as bullying material.
If you keep talking about me, I will keep pointing out your obsession.NintendoGamer83 posted...BowserNeo posted...
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3D World is the best 3D Mario game. It combines the best of 2D and 3D, including multiplayer.
Only issue I had with it is no online.
I'd beg to differ, also what are you doing expecting online in a multiplayer mainline Mario game. Of course Nintendo is only gonna do couch multiplayer.
That's a bad expectation tho, any multiplayer game not having an online option is pretty unforgivable in 2017.
Come on Limbo, it's Nintendo, expect online multiplayer in a game like that and you are bound to be disappointed.
Gonna blame Ubisoft for Rayman not having online or do they get a free pass because it ain't Nintendo?
Oh come on dude, your fantrolling is horribly blatant. He didn't even mention Rayman or anything like that and you just had to bring it in because "oh my god he's criticizing Nintendo quick make him criticize something that isn't Nintendo"n00bsaib0t posted...
A real 3D Mario game plays like a Mario game. SM64 and Sunshine do not play like Mario games, they are completely different. Odyssey will also be completely different. They aren't any more of a Mario game than Strikers or Kart.
Dumdumwantgum posted...Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
Who the Hell are either of y'all to determine what is or isn't a "real" 3d Mario game?
I don't like Mario 64. At all. that doesn't mean it ain't a "real" 3d Mario game. It just is in a style that I think is complete crap.
Meanwhile, DumDum, just 'cause you don't like 3d World doesn't mean it isn't a "real" 3d Mario game either."You can't have a nightmare, if you never dream" - My Little Pony: Friendship is MagicDumdumwantgum posted...Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
No we haven't. You have. Odyssey, just like 64 and Sunshine, is a game in a style I never asked for. Enjoy Sonic Adventure staring Mario.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahnn00bsaib0t posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
No we haven't. You have. Odyssey, just like 64 and Sunshine, is a game in a style I never asked for. Enjoy Sonic Adventure staring Mario.
I never asked for Super Bandicoot 3D World either...SignatureTrippotato posted...
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.
I think the idea of being passionate is lost when you attempt to outright dismiss certain entries in the series with labels like "not a real 3D Mario". As if the structure of the game and levels instantly prevents it from being part of the series regardless of the quality.
Hold that dismissive opinion and you'll find you'll end up liking less Mario games than non-Nintendo fans do.'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995arvilino posted...Trippotato posted...
You're a fantroll. Your goals and motives are to piss off passionate Nintendo fans who criticize the company.
Don't play stupid with me.
I think the idea of being passionate is lost when you attempt to outright dismiss certain entries in the series with labels like "not a real 3D Mario". As if the structure of the game and levels instantly prevents it from being part of the series regardless of the quality.
Hold that dismissive opinion and you'll find you'll end up liking less Mario games than non-Nintendo fans do.
I would not be lying if I said Super Mario 3D World is not a real Mario game in 3D. Would you like to challenge me on that statement?Trippotato posted...
I would not be lying if I said Super Mario 3D World is not a real Mario game in 3D. Would you like to challenge me on that statement?
If he doesn't, then I will."You can't have a nightmare, if you never dream" - My Little Pony: Friendship is MagicAre we talking about Mario in a 3D game, or a Mario game in 3D?"When you've got no argument, say something bad about <x>."
Perfectly explains why the Nintendo boards are toxic and are full of trolls/haters.Trippotato posted...
I would not be lying if I said Super Mario 3D World is not a real Mario game in 3D. Would you like to challenge me on that statement?
Sure I'd challenge it. Much like 3D Land it is the most like the Mario gameplay formula and it is also in 3D.
For you to be telling the truth Super Mario Bros 3 would have to not be a real Mario game in 2D.'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995(edited 3 days ago)quotearvilino posted...Trippotato posted...
I would not be lying if I said Super Mario 3D World is not a real Mario game in 3D. Would you like to challenge me on that statement?
Sure I'd challenge it. Much like 3D Land it is the most like the Mario gameplay formula and it is also in 3D.
For you to be telling the truth Super Mario Bros 3 would have to not be a real Mario game in 2D.
Wrong. The only real Mario games in 3D are Super Mario 3D Land, and Mario Clash for Virtual Boy.Trippotato posted...
Wrong. The only real Mario games in 3D are Super Mario 3D Land, and Mario Clash for Virtual Boy.
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Smart ass"You can't have a nightmare, if you never dream" - My Little Pony: Friendship is MagicDumdumwantgum posted...Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
No multiplayer, so it's worse in that aspect at least. Mario probably moves really slowly again as well.https://www.gog.com/
- 100% DRM free gamingDumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
No we haven't. You have. Odyssey, just like 64 and Sunshine, is a game in a style I never asked for. Enjoy Sonic Adventure staring Mario.
I never asked for Super Bandicoot 3D World either...
Thanks for letting everyone know you never played a Crash Bandicoot game.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahnsonicfanaticjtb posted...Trippotato posted...
Wrong. The only real Mario games in 3D are Super Mario 3D Land, and Mario Clash for Virtual Boy.
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Smart ass
Told you I wasn't lying.Trippotato posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...
Trippotato posted...
DiscostewSM posted...
sonicfanaticjtb posted...
LimboStudios posted...
Odyssey is more of a threat to you raging Miyamoto apologists who want the Mario series to be a homogenized piece of shit instead of a fountain of creativity and great characters.
I believe this is what the kids call "Getting triggered"
Also ironic that trolls give a crap for creativity.....
Ironic coming from a known fantroll.
Maverick_Reznor as well is a known fantroll.
I'm a fantroll cause I dump on your ignorant trolling ass?
A+ fantrolling Reznor. I think I might just cry myself to sleep.
So yes?Currently Playing :Fortnite (PC) & Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac Age(edited 3 days ago)quoteTrippotato posted...and in particular I mean @Endgame and @LimboStudios who blame Miyamoto for all the wrong doings in the Mario series
Like, 90% of everything wrong with modern Mario is Miyamoto's fault. He has managed to destroy 3D, Sports, and RPGs all with his idiotic vision of 'just the main characters, nothing else'.
@Dumdumwantgum don't shit on Crash, it's an amazing linear platformer that actually works as a linear game because it's filled with interesting and thematically appropriate setpieces, it also doesn't compromise integrity for multiplayer.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!(edited 3 days ago)quoten00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
F**k collectathons.(edited 3 days ago)quoteTrippotato posted...I think I might just cry myself to sleep.
Let's be honest here, you were going to do that regardless of what he postedWhat I can't get over is how she ripped one testicle off..~Frogstir
I can't read your topics without expecting Bel Air now.~KensaiBladeTripp, you need to take a step back and reevaluate your life choices. You're making topics to refute things endgame said.Dumdumwantgum posted...Funny how all the drones are still holding onto 3D World like a sacred cow. Let it go.
Just wait until October when Odyssey delivers the true 3D Mario we've been waiting for since 2010.
I've been waiting since Sunshine. I've played and beaten "3D" Land and "3D" World. God what awful garbage.All I've been seeing on this topic are flame wars, name-calling, and other nasty things. Most importantly, Dumdumwantgum and LimboStudios both bash on people who like stuff (Super Mario 3D World) they hate with a passion.
This is all very sad indeed...Nintendo boards are absolutely insane,,,Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?Literally if it wasn't Nintendo I would return the god damn thing and never f***ing buy another Nintendo product again.- hilliet(edited 2 days ago)quoten00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995kranix1 posted...Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?
I remember having a lot of fun, yes.Otterz4Life posted...kranix1 posted...
Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?
I remember having a lot of fun, yes.
Having fun torturing yourself?
arvilino posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Don't quote shitposts please. Thank you.BowserNeo posted...Otterz4Life posted...
kranix1 posted...
Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?
I remember having a lot of fun, yes.
Having fun torturing yourself?
arvilino posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Don't quote shitposts please. Thank you.
Posts you disagree with =/= shitposts.
I got the hang of the controls in SFZ right away. Had fun. Not torture at all.
Looks like someone couldn't be bothered to gid gud...3D Land and World were made to appeal to people who did not like 3D Mario.
And I agree 100% with @n00bsaib0t regarding 3D World being what I've been wishing for since SM64 ended with a bad taste in my mouth due how un-Mario it felt at the time.
But I don't consider 64 or the Galaxy games bad. Love Galaxy 1 and 2."You got a lot to learn before you beat me.
Tryagainkiddo AAAH AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH-AH."(edited 2 days ago)quote@BowserNeo Remember: not everyone hated the SFZ controls
@Otterz4Life Don't tell him to "git gud". It's childish and neglects the fact that not everyone will adapt to or like the controls
Counter-example for both responses: Loud Icarus UprisingOtterz4Life posted...BowserNeo posted...
Otterz4Life posted...
kranix1 posted...
Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?
I remember having a lot of fun, yes.
Having fun torturing yourself?
arvilino posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Don't quote shitposts please. Thank you.
Posts you disagree with =/= shitposts.
I got the hang of the controls in SFZ right away. Had fun. Not torture at all.
Looks like someone couldn't be bothered to gid gud...
Nope, it's a shitpost.
All 3D Mario games are real 3D Mario games. Super Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, 3D World, etc. they are ALL 3D.@Bahamut_10th posted...3D Land and World were made to appeal to people who did not like 3D Mario.
And I agree 100% with @n00bsaib0t regarding 3D World being what I've been wishing for since SM64 ended with a bad taste in my mouth due how un-Mario it felt at the time.
But I don't consider 64 or the Galaxy games bad. Love Galaxy 1 and 2.
So do you just dislike creativity and immersion? Do you want every 3D Mario game to just be back-to-back lifeless obstacle courses?
Get a load of this @LimboStudiosSignature(edited 2 days ago)quoteBowserNeo posted...Otterz4Life posted...
BowserNeo posted...
Otterz4Life posted...
kranix1 posted...
Shigeru "Not working on Switch is what allowed the 'Mario' creator to focus on mobile games and theme parks" Miyamoto
http://www.rollingstone.com/glixel/news/nintendos-shigeru-miyamoto-didnt-lead-switch-development-w460944
Remember Starfox Zero?
I remember having a lot of fun, yes.
Having fun torturing yourself?
arvilino posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Don't quote shitposts please. Thank you.
Posts you disagree with =/= shitposts.
I got the hang of the controls in SFZ right away. Had fun. Not torture at all.
Looks like someone couldn't be bothered to gid gud...
Nope, it's a shitpost.
All 3D Mario games are real 3D Mario games. Super Mario 64, Sunshine, Galaxy, 3D World, etc. they are ALL 3D.
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.randomperson2 posted...@BowserNeo Remember: not everyone hated the SFZ controls
@Otterz4Life Don't tell him to "git gud". It's childish and neglects the fact that not everyone will adapt to or like the controls
Counter-example for both responses: Loud Icarus Uprising
Not liking the controls=/= bad game.
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.BowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
Except it's not the same shit. I never side 64 or Sunshine were bad, just that they don't play like Mario games. They are as much of a Mario game in gameplay as the sports games. They don't play like the 7 games before 64 that established a clear formula. They are very much spin offs of the original games. Good spin offs, I enjoyed Sunshine the couple times I played it and I play 64 yearly. Galaxy is not the same style as 64 and Sunshine, it has a lot of side scrolling segments and actually uses the power ups. It's like a hybrid of the two and also a good set of games. I've already explained this. To claim my posts are the same as his just proves you aren't actually reading what I typed.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal KahnThe Galaxy games were pretty easy too. :/3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814
Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123(edited 2 days ago)quotehow absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!n00bsaib0t posted...BowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
Except it's not the same shit. I never side 64 or Sunshine were bad, just that they don't play like Mario games. They are as much of a Mario game in gameplay as the sports games. They don't play like the 7 games before 64 that established a clear formula. They are very much spin offs of the original games. Good spin offs, I enjoyed Sunshine the couple times I played it and I play 64 yearly. Galaxy is not the same style as 64 and Sunshine, it has a lot of side scrolling segments and actually uses the power ups. It's like a hybrid of the two and also a good set of games. I've already explained this. To claim my posts are the same as his just proves you aren't actually reading what I typed.
Oh no, I definitely read what you typed.
n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Like I said, you're stooping down to his level when you make shitposts like that.LimboStudios posted...how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.SignatureDumdumwantgum posted...LimboStudios posted...
how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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BowserNeo posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
BowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
Except it's not the same shit. I never side 64 or Sunshine were bad, just that they don't play like Mario games. They are as much of a Mario game in gameplay as the sports games. They don't play like the 7 games before 64 that established a clear formula. They are very much spin offs of the original games. Good spin offs, I enjoyed Sunshine the couple times I played it and I play 64 yearly. Galaxy is not the same style as 64 and Sunshine, it has a lot of side scrolling segments and actually uses the power ups. It's like a hybrid of the two and also a good set of games. I've already explained this. To claim my posts are the same as his just proves you aren't actually reading what I typed.
Oh no, I definitely read what you typed.
n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Like I said, you're stooping down to his level when you make shitposts like that.
One plays exactly like the games that came before it, one doesn't. I'm not wrong.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal Kahnn00bsaib0t posted...BowserNeo posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
BowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
Except it's not the same shit. I never side 64 or Sunshine were bad, just that they don't play like Mario games. They are as much of a Mario game in gameplay as the sports games. They don't play like the 7 games before 64 that established a clear formula. They are very much spin offs of the original games. Good spin offs, I enjoyed Sunshine the couple times I played it and I play 64 yearly. Galaxy is not the same style as 64 and Sunshine, it has a lot of side scrolling segments and actually uses the power ups. It's like a hybrid of the two and also a good set of games. I've already explained this. To claim my posts are the same as his just proves you aren't actually reading what I typed.
Oh no, I definitely read what you typed.
n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Like I said, you're stooping down to his level when you make shitposts like that.
One plays exactly like the games that came before it, one doesn't. I'm not wrong.
They are both Mario games.
They are both 3D platformers.
They both have an x y and z axis.
They are all real 3D. Don't get so butthurt from dumdum's trolling that you need to create a false reality.BowserNeo posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
BowserNeo posted...
n00bsaib0t posted...
BowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
Except it's not the same shit. I never side 64 or Sunshine were bad, just that they don't play like Mario games. They are as much of a Mario game in gameplay as the sports games. They don't play like the 7 games before 64 that established a clear formula. They are very much spin offs of the original games. Good spin offs, I enjoyed Sunshine the couple times I played it and I play 64 yearly. Galaxy is not the same style as 64 and Sunshine, it has a lot of side scrolling segments and actually uses the power ups. It's like a hybrid of the two and also a good set of games. I've already explained this. To claim my posts are the same as his just proves you aren't actually reading what I typed.
Oh no, I definitely read what you typed.
n00bsaib0t posted...What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
Like I said, you're stooping down to his level when you make shitposts like that.
One plays exactly like the games that came before it, one doesn't. I'm not wrong.
They are both Mario games.
They are both 3D platformers.
They both have an x y and z axis.
They are all real 3D. Don't get so butthurt from dumdum's trolling that you need to create a false reality.
According to this kind of logic, Sonic 3D blast and a Link between worlds are also true 3D gamesSignatureBowserNeo posted...
Try telling THAT to the 64 and Sunshine fanboys.
That's only Dumdumwantsgum, who I have on ignore.
You guys really aren't making a better case for yourselves by spouting the same shit he does.
I love Sunshine :)Komm suesser Todn00bsaib0t posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
LimboStudios posted...
how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!Dumdumwantgum posted...According to this kind of logic, Sonic 3D blast and a Link between worlds are also true 3D games
Wouldn't they be? It is a bit easier to classify Zelda though, as the main difference is camera perspective (overhead vs. 3rd person).LimboStudios posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
LimboStudios posted...
how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.
I think "bland and mediocre" could also describe how I felt about 3D World as a whole. Thank god we are getting a true 3D Mario game this fall.SignatureLimboStudios posted...how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
To be fair, that one actually some credence related to statements that have since been made. Although it still takes some logical leaps to get there. Not sure how saying it's a "side story" is meant to be interpreted as "not canon" or "alternate universe" or what have you. Majora's codename was "Zelda Gaiden," and its place in the timeline was never questioned at all.GallantChaddymn posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
HALLELUJAH!
Thank fucking Christ a sane individual! agree 100%, couldn't have said ti better myself.
@GallantChaddymn @n00bsaib0t I agree with him too! When it was first announced they were planning for a Mario game on the Nintendo 64, I was expecting it would either be a 2D sequel to Mario World at first and am still disappointed they didn't do a 2D game with Mario himself in it on the 64. When they talked about how it was going to be a 3D Mario game I was imagining something like 3D World or perhaps even World remade in 3D! The game that was the end result was probably not what Mario's first 3D game should have been. The game that ended up being his first 3D game should have been the 2nd 3D Mario game instead. I would have been satisfied with that. With his first 3D game I'd think they would have wanted to keep a lot of the concepts and ideas everyone had gotten used to over the first 4 2D games and translate those to 3D. Don't get me wrong, Mario 64 is good but they really did change quite a bit too quickly for comfort. I was personally a bit disappointed with his first 3D game. I think Sunshine should have been the third 3D game instead of 2nd. Galaxy drop landed where I expected it to. Just...a lot of what's in 3D Land and World should have been in that first 3D game.bh7812 posted...GallantChaddymn posted...
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What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
HALLELUJAH!
Thank fucking Christ a sane individual! agree 100%, couldn't have said ti better myself.
@GallantChaddymn @n00bsaib0t I agree with him too! When it was first announced they were planning for a Mario game on the Nintendo 64, I was expecting it would either be a 2D sequel to Mario World at first and am still disappointed they didn't do a 2D game with Mario himself in it on the 64. When they talked about how it was going to be a 3D Mario game I was imagining something like 3D World or perhaps even World remade in 3D! The game that was the end result was probably not what Mario's first 3D game should have been. The game that ended up being his first 3D game should have been the 2nd 3D Mario game instead. I would have been satisfied with that. With his first 3D game I'd think they would have wanted to keep a lot of the concepts and ideas everyone had gotten used to over the first 4 2D games and translate those to 3D. Don't get me wrong, Mario 64 is good but they really did change quite a bit too quickly for comfort. I was personally a bit disappointed with his first 3D game. I think Sunshine should have been the third 3D game instead of 2nd. Galaxy drop landed where I expected it to. Just...a lot of what's in 3D Land and World should have been in that first 3D game.
This whole post sounds like BS. I mean, there wasn't even stable internet back in 1996, most people didn't know about upcoming games until a few weeks before their release.SupooperMario4 posted...bh7812 posted...
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What boggles my mind is how some of you think that we should only get one kind of game. Some of us want platforming instead of collecting shit. 3D Land and 3D World where what I expected out of SM64. You know, a real 3D Mario game. You all have your head too far up your ass to accept that you aren't the only one playing video games. The two styles can and do exist side by side now.
HALLELUJAH!
Thank fucking Christ a sane individual! agree 100%, couldn't have said ti better myself.
@GallantChaddymn @n00bsaib0t I agree with him too! When it was first announced they were planning for a Mario game on the Nintendo 64, I was expecting it would either be a 2D sequel to Mario World at first and am still disappointed they didn't do a 2D game with Mario himself in it on the 64. When they talked about how it was going to be a 3D Mario game I was imagining something like 3D World or perhaps even World remade in 3D! The game that was the end result was probably not what Mario's first 3D game should have been. The game that ended up being his first 3D game should have been the 2nd 3D Mario game instead. I would have been satisfied with that. With his first 3D game I'd think they would have wanted to keep a lot of the concepts and ideas everyone had gotten used to over the first 4 2D games and translate those to 3D. Don't get me wrong, Mario 64 is good but they really did change quite a bit too quickly for comfort. I was personally a bit disappointed with his first 3D game. I think Sunshine should have been the third 3D game instead of 2nd. Galaxy drop landed where I expected it to. Just...a lot of what's in 3D Land and World should have been in that first 3D game.
This whole post sounds like BS. I mean, there wasn't even stable internet back in 1996, most people didn't know about upcoming games until a few weeks before their release.
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how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.
I think "bland and mediocre" could also describe how I felt about 3D World as a whole. Thank god we are getting a true 3D Mario game this fall.
We've been getting true 3D Marios for years.
Also, how was 3D World bland?3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814
Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123LuigiFan835 posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
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how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.
I think "bland and mediocre" could also describe how I felt about 3D World as a whole. Thank god we are getting a true 3D Mario game this fall.
We've been getting true 3D Marios for years.
Also, how was 3D World bland?
Something about time limits, linear stages, no heath bar and other such nonsense. You know, aspects of the classic SMB that made Mario a household name and gaming icon.ROB45 posted...LuigiFan835 posted...
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how absolutely fucking delusional do you have to be to actually call the 3D Mario series spin-offs? Like, what level of detachment from reality or common sense is required? You're like the fucking tools who say Metroid Prime is a spinoff.
Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.
I think "bland and mediocre" could also describe how I felt about 3D World as a whole. Thank god we are getting a true 3D Mario game this fall.
We've been getting true 3D Marios for years.
Also, how was 3D World bland?
Something about time limits, linear stages, no heath bar and other such nonsense. You know, aspects of the classic SMB that made Mario a household name and gaming icon.
Flagpoles and time limits never made Mario an icon, they were only crutches, rightfully removed in later games then added back for some baffling reason.SignatureDumdumwantgum posted...ROB45 posted...
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Damage control pretty much. They need to find ways to justify 3D World's existance.
If they were part of the main series they wouldn't be "3D Mario", they would just be Mario. But you yourselves keep referring to them separately. That should tell you everything about them.
We call them 2D Mario and 3D Mario. They're more main series than the bland and mediocre 2D games.
I think "bland and mediocre" could also describe how I felt about 3D World as a whole. Thank god we are getting a true 3D Mario game this fall.
We've been getting true 3D Marios for years.
Also, how was 3D World bland?
Something about time limits, linear stages, no heath bar and other such nonsense. You know, aspects of the classic SMB that made Mario a household name and gaming icon.
Flagpoles and time limits never made Mario an icon, they were only crutches, rightfully removed in later games then added back for some baffling reason.
"Later games" being 2 games in the middle.Surely there's no problem with them putting me in Brawl, right?
It's ****ing satire, damnit. 6 times 3 isn't 200 either!Dumdumwantgum posted...Flagpoles and time limits never made Mario an icon, they were only crutches, rightfully removed in later games then added back for some baffling reason.
The stars in Galaxy 1/2 may as well have been flagpoles, as they missions were still pretty linear even if they did offer more exploration that 3DL/W. Certain missions in Galaxy 1/2 also had time limits, and besides the levels with shortened time limits, the time limits in 3D Land and World were rarely an issue.
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Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123(edited 22 hours ago)quoteLuigiFan835 posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
Flagpoles and time limits never made Mario an icon, they were only crutches, rightfully removed in later games then added back for some baffling reason.
The stars in Galaxy 1/2 may as well have been flagpoles, as they missions were still pretty linear even if they did offer more exploration that 3DL/W. Certain missions in Galaxy 1/2 also had time limits, and besides the levels with shortened time limits, the time limits in 3D Land and World were rarely an issue.
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Which is clearly why Miyamoto doesn't consider the Galaxy games in the same "3D Mario" subseries as 64 and Sunshine.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal KahnLuigiFan835 posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
Flagpoles and time limits never made Mario an icon, they were only crutches, rightfully removed in later games then added back for some baffling reason.
The stars in Galaxy 1/2 may as well have been flagpoles, as they missions were still pretty linear even if they did offer more exploration that 3DL/W. Certain missions in Galaxy 1/2 also had time limits, and besides the levels with shortened time limits, the time limits in 3D Land and World were rarely an issue.
:/
They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
Also, if anything, the timer should go UP. Players should challenge themselves to get the fastest time, not be forced by a time limit that's nothing but artificial difficulty.Signature(edited 20 hours ago)quoteDumdumwantgum posted...They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.SignatureDumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.
You heard it from the "3D Mario" fanboy himself, the stars in 64 are just a goal point. They are fundamentally identical to the flagpoles he claims to hate.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.
You heard it from the "3D Mario" fanboy himself, the stars in 64 are just a goal point. They are fundamentally identical to the flagpoles he claims to hate.
The only troll here is you, who completely ignores the fact that stars/moons/etc are much more versatile on how you receive them, and aren't just simply crutches that make every level end the same damn way.
Do you want every 3D Mario to be just stages and stages of boring obstacle courses?SignatureThat's a bummer as 3D World is AWESOME!.
I feel bad for so many of you that don't have 3 friends that could play the game with you.
It's one of the greatest Co-op games ever.PSN/NNID/Live: Loadedklip Recent Games: Splatoon 2, Until Dawn, Mighty Gunvolt Burst
Trump: if Ivanka werent my daughter, perhaps Id be dating her.Dumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
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n00bsaib0t posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.
You heard it from the "3D Mario" fanboy himself, the stars in 64 are just a goal point. They are fundamentally identical to the flagpoles he claims to hate.
The only troll here is you, who completely ignores the fact that stars/moons/etc are much more versatile on how you receive them, and aren't just simply crutches that make every level end the same damn way.
Do you want every 3D Mario to be just stages and stages of boring obstacle courses?
None of them are boring. And you don't get to throw around the word "troll" when you repeatedly ignore what I've actually said to try and push posts like this. Sorry kiddo.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.
You heard it from the "3D Mario" fanboy himself, the stars in 64 are just a goal point. They are fundamentally identical to the flagpoles he claims to hate.
The only troll here is you, who completely ignores the fact that stars/moons/etc are much more versatile on how you receive them, and aren't just simply crutches that make every level end the same damn way.
Do you want every 3D Mario to be just stages and stages of boring obstacle courses?
None of them are boring. And you don't get to throw around the word "troll" when you repeatedly ignore what I've actually said to try and push posts like this. Sorry kiddo.
They are very, VERY boring. That's not what 3D Mario should be about, and that's not what it WILL be about on Switch.
I'll gladly enjoy my "Sonic Adventure" Mario, thank you very much. If you're feeling sour, just play Crash Bandicoot 3D World.Signature(edited 19 hours ago)quoteThis thread has evolved into a shitfest.
My only point was if you didn't like 3D Land/World, don't blame Miyamoto, blame Koichi Hayashida.OMEGA RUGAL posted...That's a bummer as 3D World is AWESOME!.
I feel bad for so many of you that don't have 3 friends that could play the game with you.
It's one of the greatest Co-op games ever.
Lol, NO THANKS.
I'd prefer an actual step forward in the series, not a game bogged down in scope due to obnoxious multiplayer where the run button is the same as the throw button.
This is why I bought a Switch in the first place, because it has a fixed 3D Mario.Signature(edited 19 hours ago)quoteDumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
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n00bsaib0t posted...
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They're crutches. They aren't innovative or good gameplay elements. If Mario 1 didn't have time limits, and featured an end collectible instead of a flagpole, NEWS FLASH, no one would have cared. Moons/stars/whatever are so much more versatile than flagpoles.
I know that facts mean nothing to you, but NSMB has both concepts, as does 3D Land / World. The concept that actually started in SMW with the Dragon Coins, actually. Things to collect, and a clear goal post at the end of a level.
Those are Star Coins, not Stars.
I don't know why some people can't tell the difference.
One is a goal point, the other is simply a collectible.
You heard it from the "3D Mario" fanboy himself, the stars in 64 are just a goal point. They are fundamentally identical to the flagpoles he claims to hate.
The only troll here is you, who completely ignores the fact that stars/moons/etc are much more versatile on how you receive them, and aren't just simply crutches that make every level end the same damn way.
Do you want every 3D Mario to be just stages and stages of boring obstacle courses?
None of them are boring. And you don't get to throw around the word "troll" when you repeatedly ignore what I've actually said to try and push posts like this. Sorry kiddo.
They are very, VERY boring. That's not what 3D Mario should be about, and that's not what it WILL be about on Switch.
I'll gladly enjoy my "Sonic Adventure" Mario, thank you very much. If you're feeling sour, just play Crash Bandicoot 3D World.
Once again proving you never played Crash Bandicoot. The PSone Classics are dirt cheap and there's a fancy remastered trilogy if you want to try them out. Half of the levels run straight forward, while the other half are side scrolling. It's nothing like 3D Land or 3D World. Nice try though.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal KahnThey are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!SignatureDumdumwantgum posted...They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
I love how you just described how they are different. But they're totally alike, guys!Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
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They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
I love how you just described how they are different. But they're totally alike, guys!
They aren't that different, just a much better take on the linear 3D platformer.SignatureDumdumwantgum posted...n00bsaib0t posted...
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They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
I love how you just described how they are different. But they're totally alike, guys!
They aren't that different, just a much better take on the linear 3D platformer.
Running in a straight line isn't really 3D. It's the same concept as a 2D platformer if the camera was behind you, and half the levels are 2D platformers. If Crash is a 3D platformer so is Contra.Steam/XBL/PSN/EU NNID - Nifterific | US NNID & Nintendo Account - n00bsaib0t
EU Nintendo Account - n00b_saib0t | SFV: Balrog | MKX: Sun God Kotal KahnDumdumwantgum posted...Also, if anything, the timer should go UP. Players should challenge themselves to get the fastest time, not be forced by a time limit that's nothing but artificial difficulty.
I realize i'm basically just taking up nitpicks with you at this point, but that's mostly because of most of the things I already agree with you about. Not that you'll acknowledge that, but I might as well put that out there anyway.
If you had problems in any of the Mario games with time limits aside from the levels where they explicitly bring the timer way down for challenge, that's on you. It's hardly even artificial difficulty. None of the older games did that, and to my knowledge the vast majority of levels that did it in the newer ones are postgame content. The only exception to that is NSLU where it was the entire gimmick.Dumdumwantgum posted...They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
What's wrong with 3DL/W allowing you to explore? Isn't that good?
And again, you're making this time limit out to be a way bigger deal than it actually is. In one of the games except NSLU has it actually been an issue3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814
Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123LuigiFan835 posted...Dumdumwantgum posted...
They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
What's wrong with 3DL/W allowing you to explore? Isn't that good?
And again, you're making this time limit out to be a way bigger deal than it actually is. In one of the games except NSLU has it actually been an issue
Exploring is putting it nicely. Basically all the levels are broad to accomodate the idiotic 4-player clusterfuck.
Crash is a tight, well designed, cinematic 3D Linear platformer that isn't compromised by multiplayer. Comparing it to 3DW is insulting to the Crash series.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!LimboStudios posted...LuigiFan835 posted...
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They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
What's wrong with 3DL/W allowing you to explore? Isn't that good?
And again, you're making this time limit out to be a way bigger deal than it actually is. In one of the games except NSLU has it actually been an issue
Exploring is putting it nicely. Basically all the levels are broad to accomodate the idiotic 4-player clusterfuck.
Crash is a tight, well designed, cinematic 3D Linear platformer that isn't compromised by multiplayer. Comparing it to 3DW is insulting to the Crash series.
Lol.ROB45 posted...LimboStudios posted...
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They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
What's wrong with 3DL/W allowing you to explore? Isn't that good?
And again, you're making this time limit out to be a way bigger deal than it actually is. In one of the games except NSLU has it actually been an issue
Exploring is putting it nicely. Basically all the levels are broad to accomodate the idiotic 4-player clusterfuck.
Crash is a tight, well designed, cinematic 3D Linear platformer that isn't compromised by multiplayer. Comparing it to 3DW is insulting to the Crash series.
Lol.
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.Surely there's no problem with them putting me in Brawl, right?
It's ****ing satire, damnit. 6 times 3 isn't 200 either!SmallerRidley posted...I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!(edited 15 hours ago)quoteLimboStudios posted...SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
ROB45 doesn't even have that type of taste. He's just a gimmick user. Seems like he has controversial opinions just to piss people off. Like a fantroll but less fanboy-ish.LimboStudios posted...SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
Shit taste indeed. Apparently you don't like Mario 64, Crash 3, Spyro or Banjo.ROB45 posted...LimboStudios posted...
SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
Shit taste indeed. Apparently you don't like Mario 64, Crash 3, Spyro or Banjo.
I agree with him actually you have shit taste. But that's just because you are a blatant gimmick user.Trippotato posted...ROB45 posted...
LimboStudios posted...
SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
Shit taste indeed. Apparently you don't like Mario 64, Crash 3, Spyro or Banjo.
I agree with him actually you have shit taste. But that's just because you are a blatant gimmick user.
Gotta love that classic gamefaqs logic. Seems rather foolhardy to insult timeless classics just to flame other users.LimboStudios posted...Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as s*** taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
That's rich considering your attitude leads me to believe you wouldn't have played Crash until this year.
I could have told you Crash 1-3 was a good series like 18 years ago when I played them. CTR is pretty good too. Notice I didn't have to start shitting on Nintendo to acknowledge quality on other platforms?'The fact of the matter is that we've been here constantly. We've been betraying peoples expectations, in a good way, for a long time.'
3DS: 2449-4649-4995Trippotato posted...ROB45 posted...
LimboStudios posted...
SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
Shit taste indeed. Apparently you don't like Mario 64, Crash 3, Spyro or Banjo.
I agree with him actually you have shit taste. But that's just because you are a blatant gimmick user.
That's ironic coming from you.
And Limbo is a huge Sony tool.Currently Playing :Fortnite (PC) & Final Fantasy XII The Zodiac AgeMaverick_Reznor posted...Trippotato posted...
ROB45 posted...
LimboStudios posted...
SmallerRidley posted...
I don't know what Limbo is thinking. Sonic Lost World is a much better example.
Thinking more than you're able to apparently.
Won't even humor ROB45, his opinions go beyond what humans consider as shit taste.
But I don't really expect Ninty bootlickers to recognize how great the original Crash Trilogy is.
Shit taste indeed. Apparently you don't like Mario 64, Crash 3, Spyro or Banjo.
I agree with him actually you have shit taste. But that's just because you are a blatant gimmick user.
That's ironic coming from you.
And Limbo is a huge Sony tool.
"OHH HuRRDURR HES A SONY TROLL BECAUSE HE CRITIcized NinTendo!"
Man, you fan trolls are all the fucking same.Maverick_Reznor posted...That's ironic coming from you.
And Limbo is a huge Sony tool.
A huge Sony tool that for this generation has only owned a Wii U, a PC and soon a Switch...huh, wonder how that works. Maybe I'm a Nintendo consumer and therefore I criticize Nintendo because I want better products, must be fucking rocket science to you complacent bootlickers.
@arvilino funny you say that, because when I praise games on other platforms I never do it shitting on Nintendo, if we're talking about services, there's plenty of reason to shit on them when comparing them to infinitely better offerings.Even my most peaceful and calm posts are somehow designed to belittle those that disagree with me even a little, get used to it~!(edited 3 hours ago)quoteLimboStudios posted...Maverick_Reznor posted...
That's ironic coming from you.
And Limbo is a huge Sony tool.
A huge Sony tool that for this generation has only owned a Wii U, a PC and soon a Switch...huh, wonder how that works. Maybe I'm a Nintendo consumer and therefore I criticize Nintendo because I want better products, must be fucking rocket science to you complacent bootlickers.
@arvilino funny you say that, because when I praise games on other platforms I never do it shitting on Nintendo, if we're talking about services, there's plenty of reason to shit on them when comparing them to infinitely better offerings.
Like I said, he's a fantroll, he pulls the sony card because that's literally the only thing they know how to do.LimboStudios posted...LuigiFan835 posted...
Dumdumwantgum posted...
They are everything like 3D Land and 3D World, I love how you can't even explain why they aren't, because you know I am right.
I'd argue those games do a better job actually, at least they lock you in a hallway and don't tease your instincts to explore. AND WHAT? No time limits? The timer goes UP? WHAT A CRAZY CONCEPT!
What's wrong with 3DL/W allowing you to explore? Isn't that good?
And again, you're making this time limit out to be a way bigger deal than it actually is. In one of the games except NSLU has it actually been an issue
Exploring is putting it nicely. Basically all the levels are broad to accomodate the idiotic 4-player clusterfuck.
Crash is a tight, well designed, cinematic 3D Linear platformer that isn't compromised by multiplayer. Comparing it to 3DW is insulting to the Crash series.
Crash is great but you're giving it way too much praise imo3DS FC:1375-8350-6103; Switch FC: 5454-0571-3814
Mii Name: Luigi; NNID: MARIOS_BRO123I don't so much mind the style of nsmb and 3dworld/land games it's the lack of creativity in them. A lot of people who have played enough games talk about platformers having the obligatory grass world, ice world, desert world, water world, lava world, and the aforementioned mario games adhere pretty strongly to that. On top of that in 3dworld/land would it have killed them to put a little background on the levels so they're not just platforms floating in mid air for no discernible reason?
The games don't even really have that much creativity in the level design either. Mario games don't even get moderately challenging until the final world now. You could say the games are supposed to be easy, ok but then don't criticize people for saying the game is rote and uninteresting.- Boards
- Nintendo Switch
- Miyamoto is not the cause for 3D Land and 3D World
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