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skier8390 2 days ago#1
Have you ever wanted to impale your enemies with an ax and use the enemies themselves as weapons? Well that's possible in Warriors as shown by the bratty but well meaning princess, Lissa from Fire Emblem Awakening. 

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Bellagio_6 2 days ago#2
The game looks awful and only pays mind to three games of the franchise. 


Will not buy.
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Bellagio_6 posted...
The game looks awful and only pays mind to three games of the franchise. 


Will not buy.

To be honest it could look amazing and you would still say it looks awful because you are a shit poster.
That said, it looks no worse than any other Musou.
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Moltres006 2 days ago#4
I'm really enjoying fate extella so maybe I'll get this as well.
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skier8390 2 days ago#5
Bellagio_6 posted...
and only pays mind to three games of the franchise.


That's because Koei Tecmo wants to make $$$. Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".

Guess which FE games sold best in "the West"?

Yes you got it: Awakening and Fates.
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#6
skier8390 posted...
Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".


you do realize Zelda is much more popular in the West than in Japan

that alone is reason enough to expect it to have sold better here
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skier8390 2 days ago#7
DuranmanX4 posted...
skier8390 posted...
Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".


you do realize Zelda is much more popular in the West than in Japan

that alone is reason enough to expect it to have sold better here


Regardless, there's a western market for Nintendo musou games as Hyrule Warriors has shown us. Why not showcase characters from the more popular FE games so that FE Warriors has more international appeal?

Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?
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Bellagio_6 2 days ago#8
skier8390 posted...
DuranmanX4 posted...
skier8390 posted...
Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".


you do realize Zelda is much more popular in the West than in Japan

that alone is reason enough to expect it to have sold better here


Regardless, there's a western market for Nintendo musou games as Hyrule Warriors has shown us. Why not showcase characters from the more popular FE games so that FE Warriors has more international appeal?

Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?

If it means keeping God awful popular characters like Cordelia, Camilla, and Owain out then yes.
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587Deathking 2 days ago#9
I'm still waiting on the full roster, and since they're focusing on the same three games again I'm rather dissapointed so far, before buying and DLC or sequel potential is a weak argument to not be worried about any characters that aren't from Awakening, Shadow Dragon or Fates
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tr1bes 2 days ago#10
I got my Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warrior Orochi, and Gundam Warriors to feel my taste. I don't need anymore look a like Warriors games again. The next thing you know is that they going to put Mario Warriors.
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JustABox 2 days ago#11
I'm gonna wait to see the full roster, how much DLC this game will have and how many amiibo I'll have to buy to get all the weapons or extra characters. And then decide if I really want it.
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GuyKopski 2 days ago#12
skier8390 posted...
DuranmanX4 posted...
skier8390 posted...
Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".


you do realize Zelda is much more popular in the West than in Japan

that alone is reason enough to expect it to have sold better here


Regardless, there's a western market for Nintendo musou games as Hyrule Warriors has shown us. Why not showcase characters from the more popular FE games so that FE Warriors has more international appeal?

Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?


If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the real fan favorites later on.
AstralFrost 2 days ago#13
Expected the reason to be "because there's nothing else available".
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DuranmanX4 2 days ago#14
skier8390 posted...
Regardless, there's a western market for Nintendo musou games as Hyrule Warriors has shown us.


Hyrule Warriors shows us that people like the characters in the Legend of Zelda so much they are willing to buy any game with them

explains why Link's Crossbow Training sold so well

skier8390 posted...
Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?


because some of the characters added in Hyrule Warriors like Agitha are so recognizable
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phineasfool 2 days ago#15
tr1bes posted...
I got my Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warrior Orochi, and Gundam Warriors to feel my taste. I don't need anymore look a like Warriors games again. The next thing you know is that they going to put Mario Warriors.

I would buy Mario Warriors.
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skier8390 2 days ago#16
GuyKopski posted...
If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the real fan favorites later on.


Real fan favorites for real fans? Well I guess you've got it all figured out then. I'm waiting for the next post from a FE "vet" discussing how all the copies Awakening and Fates sold was just a fluke and why the characters in those games are all one dimensional. 

Characters like Chrom, Corrin, and Camilla are popular and real fan favorites. Deal with it.
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The game's got an awful cast, not buying
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skier8390 posted...
GuyKopski posted...
If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the real fan favorites later on.


Real fan favorites for real fans? Well I guess you've got it all figured out then. I'm waiting for the next post from a FE "vet" discussing how all the copies Awakening and Fates sold was just a fluke and why the characters in those games are all one dimensional. 

Characters like Chrom, Corrin, and Camilla are popular and real fan favorites. Deal with it.

Honestly I used to believe that Awakening did sell a lot because it made the game more approachable to newcomers, however with the (and I don't think this is a hyperbole) the meltdown people had with Fates lack of waifu petting and Echoes not selling good; Awakening probably brought in slightly more people to the gameplay but brought in people for the "dating" and "waifu" aspect of the series.
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skier8390 2 days ago#19
587Deathking posted...
Honestly I used to believe that Awakening did sell a lot because it made the game more approachable to newcomers, however with the (and I don't think this is a hyperbole) the meltdown people had with Fates lack of waifu petting and Echoes not selling good; Awakening probably brought in slightly more people to the gameplay but brought in people for the "dating" and "waifu" aspect of the series.


Well Echoes not selling that well could've been for a variety of reasons, no? It's a remake of a game from the early 90's with most gameplay left intact, basic box maps included. It wasn't a terrible game imo and I liked the story but the gameplay was pretty mediocre to me. 

I won't go down the "Waifu Emblem" path since it's been beaten to death so many times and people who use it as their argument seriously blow the "waifu simulator" aspect of the game out of proportion. Most people who play FE Fates must enjoy some aspect of the combot gameplay as there are far, far better waifu simulators out there.
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Brando11 2 days ago#20
587Deathking posted...
skier8390 posted...
GuyKopski posted...
If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the realfan favorites later on.


Real fan favorites for real fans? Well I guess you've got it all figured out then. I'm waiting for the next post from a FE "vet" discussing how all the copies Awakening and Fates sold was just a fluke and why the characters in those games are all one dimensional. 

Characters like Chrom, Corrin, and Camilla are popular and real fan favorites. Deal with it.

Honestly I used to believe that Awakening did sell a lot because it made the game more approachable to newcomers, however with the (and I don't think this is a hyperbole) the meltdown people had with Fates lack of waifu petting and Echoes not selling good; Awakening probably brought in slightly more people to the gameplay but brought in people for the "dating" and "waifu" aspect of the series.

Echoes sold poorly because it was a remake. People overestimate the waifu bullshit.
Maverick_Reznor posted...
Bellagio_6 posted...
The game looks awful and only pays mind to three games of the franchise. 


Will not buy.

To be honest it could look amazing and you would still say it looks awful because you are a shit poster.
That said, it looks no worse than any other Musou.
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DreTam2000 2 days ago#22
tr1bes posted...
I got my Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warrior Orochi, and Gundam Warriors to feel my taste. I don't need anymore look a like Warriors games again. The next thing you know is that they going to put Mario Warriors.
Quexlaw 2 days ago#23
I don't need trashy musou games.

Heck, I'm a huge Berserk fan and I didn't get the Berserk Musou game. It's for people with either absolutely nothing remotely worthwhile to do or for people who enjoy putting themselves into a close-to-braindead state. Both are people I tend to not associate with.
I'll buy FEW anyway, but i really have to say i'm enjoying Fate/Extella a lot more
then most of Koei's Warriors games.
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MWXIII 2 days ago#25
This game looks beyond awful and isn't using the new open world build that dynasty warriors is using.

I might buy it because I sadly buy most of these hack and slash games but this seems really low quality compared to Dragon quest heroes 2
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Pharsti01 2 days ago#26
Maverick_Reznor posted...
That said, it looks no worse than any other Musou.


Yup, its a musou game through and through, that comes with all its pros and cons.

Personally, not my kinda thing, the combat is just too simple and barebones and the story for these kind of crossovers is always laughably bad XD
vayne145 2 days ago#27
will this one be more strategy based? I skimmed through the video because I didn't want to watch 14 mins. But that's why I didn't get fates. Was told it was no strategy at all. So hoping this one is more strategy based where you take surrounding camps to weaken other camps and stuff. And I doubt it will have the stuff like dynasty warrior where you give commands and stuff from the world map before a fight but doesn't hurt to ask if it will have stuff like that at all.

Like my only gripe is that if i'm going to play a hack and slash game I will need SOMETHING else along side than just killing a million mobs with a few button presses. Otherwise hopefully it has some other elements. And a free mode would be nice to.
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587Deathking posted...
they're focusing on the same three games again

Did I miss a FE Musou that already came out?
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Brando11 posted...
587Deathking posted...
skier8390 posted...
GuyKopski posted...
If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the real fan favorites later on.


Real fan favorites for real fans? Well I guess you've got it all figured out then. I'm waiting for the next post from a FE "vet" discussing how all the copies Awakening and Fates sold was just a fluke and why the characters in those games are all one dimensional. 

Characters like Chrom, Corrin, and Camilla are popular and real fan favorites. Deal with it.

Honestly I used to believe that Awakening did sell a lot because it made the game more approachable to newcomers, however with the (and I don't think this is a hyperbole) the meltdown people had with Fates lack of waifu petting and Echoes not selling good; Awakening probably brought in slightly more people to the gameplay but brought in people for the "dating" and "waifu" aspect of the series.

Echoes sold poorly because it was a remake. People overestimate the waifu bullshit.


I wouldn't even say it sold poorly.

It has done about 200K in Japan and was the 7th best selling game(all formats) in the USA in may(not counting digital sales unlike some of the games ahead of it) and in its second month it remained the top selling 3DS game of the month showing at decent momentum instead of quickly being passed by evergreen titles like several other recent 3DS release.

It debuted at #5 in the U.K as well.
skier8390 2 days ago#30
vayne145 posted...
But that's why I didn't get fates. Was told it was no strategy at all


Keep in mind GameFAQS is not a place for unbiased info. Fates absolutely involves strategy especially on the more difficult settings. Most people will not argue with the statement that the Lunatic difficulty for Conquest requires strategy. If they do, they likely haven't played it.
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Viccss 2 days ago#31
That was hilarious Lissa totally rekt Frederick I'm probably going to get this for the 3DS.
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More like a reason to not buy Fire Emblem Warriors and hope it fails. Lissa is perhaps the ugliest Nintendo character outside of Fifth Generation pokémon. Nothing that gives her prominence deserves to perform well. We must send Nintendo the message to get rid of Kozaki as character designer, for he created the abomination that is Lissa.

Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?

Sigurd is more popular, even amongst the western fanbase, than Lissa who is only noteworthy for being one of the most hideous character in the franchise and was irrelevant in Awakening its self. So you can stop trying to apply the word "logical" to your verbal diarrhea.

You would also do well to look up how well Genealogy sold. Just short of 500k, as in not that much lower than Fates' Japanese sales.

If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike

Stop right there.

1. Ike's boring Gary Stu ass IS getting in. Amiibo, remember?

2. Ike's games were commercial failures. If they wanted to appeal to as many people as possible, they'd go as far as to kick his ass out of SSB and replace him with someone whose games didn't bomb.\

Keep in mind GameFAQS is not a place for unbiased info.

There is no such thing as unbiased. Especially not coming from you.

Fates absolutely involves strategy especially on the more difficult settings. Most people will not argue with the statement that the Lunatic difficulty for Conquest requires strategy. If they do, they likely haven't played it.

This is what people who suck at Fire Emblem actually believe.

Unless Inevitable End is a factor, any chapter you have Xander is no different on Lunatic Classic than it is on Phoenix Mode. Have you people who think Conquest isn't even more softcore than Awakening even TRIED XanderxCharlotte? Or do you want to continue ignoring real Fire Emblem veterans because they're not pushing Nintendo's false advertising that Conquest was made for them?

At least in Awakening, Nosferatank Robin had to watch out for Counter. In Conquest, you use Xander to steamroll everything between the moment he joins and Chapter 25, recruit the children, and then use Xander + second generation units (Velouria is practically just as good as Xander despite being locked to 1 range.) to steamroll the Naruto wannabes, which are nothing when their debuffs are spread out amongst multiple units.

Or you can just recruit Josephine and call it a day. Why didn't IS have the sense to disable THOSE features in Lunatic? Not that it matters when Xander destroys everything before getting debuffed to hell, something that doesn't happen if you deploy more units.

And for the other two routes of Fates, Ryoma is even stronger than Xander.....

Echoes sold poorly because it was a remake. People overestimate the waifu bullshit.

No they fucking don't. The waifu bullshit is the only thing that really seperated Awakening from the Tellius games. Awakening wasn't even that much more braindead easy compared to PoR.

So how did a game very similar to PoR avoid crashing and burning like PoR? What did it have that PoR didn't? Hmm.....
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XylonTheManaket posted...
So how did a game very similar to PoR avoid crashing and burning like PoR? What did it have that PoR didn't? Hmm.....

Well, it wasn't slow as shit for starters. And it didn't divide up your characters into a bunch of teams locked away from you for large stretches of the game.
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skier8390 1 day ago#35
XylonTheManaket posted...
This is what people who suck at Fire Emblem actually believe.

Unless Inevitable End is a factor, any chapter you have Xander is no different on Lunatic Classic than it is on Phoenix Mode. Have you people who think Conquest isn't even more softcore than Awakening even TRIED XanderxCharlotte? Or do you want to continue ignoring real Fire Emblem veterans because they're not pushing Nintendo's false advertising that Conquest was made for them?

At least in Awakening, Nosferatank Robin had to watch out for Counter. In Conquest, you use Xander to steamroll everything between the moment he joins and Chapter 25, recruit the children, and then use Xander + second generation units (Velouria is practically just as good as Xander despite being locked to 1 range.) to steamroll the Naruto wannabes, which are nothing when their debuffs are spread out amongst multiple units.

Or you can just recruit Josephine and call it a day. Why didn't IS have the sense to disable THOSE features in Lunatic? Not that it matters when Xander destroys everything before getting debuffed to hell, something that doesn't happen if you deploy more units.

And for the other two routes of Fates, Ryoma is even stronger than Xander.....


Endgame come on man. Xander isn't going to be very helpful for the first half of the game since he doesn't join until Chapter 16. And even then you can't blindly "steamroll" enemies there is definitely still strategy involved. 

I'm going to ask this again, have you really played and beaten Conquest on Lunatic difficulty with classic mode? Be honest.
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skier8390 posted...
Have you ever wanted to impale your enemies with an ax and use the enemies themselves as weapons? Well that's possible in Warriors as shown by the bratty but well meaning princess, Lissa from Fire Emblem Awakening. 

At 6:50


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skier8390 1 day ago#37
RoyalDroneX posted...
skier8390 posted...
Have you ever wanted to impale your enemies with an ax and use the enemies themselves as weapons? Well that's possible in Warriors as shown by the bratty but well meaning princess, Lissa from Fire Emblem Awakening. 

At 6:50


_waits for Endgame to be triggered by Lissa_


Wait no longer read @XylonTheManaket's post (it's End's alt). ;P
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vayne145 1 day ago#38
skier8390 posted...
vayne145 posted...
But that's why I didn't get fates. Was told it was no strategy at all


Keep in mind GameFAQS is not a place for unbiased info. Fates absolutely involves strategy especially on the more difficult settings. Most people will not argue with the statement that the Lunatic difficulty for Conquest requires strategy. If they do, they likely haven't played it.


Ah I'll have to check out some more videos then. The few I saw wasn't showing much and pretty sure they were playing on the easiest setting.
skier8390 posted...

Or do people think it's logical to include a bunch of random nobodies like Sigurd just to satisfy the 3 "real fans" who've played that game?

Dude, I'm triggered. WTH
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skier8390 posted...
Bellagio_6 posted...
and only pays mind to three games of the franchise.


That's because Koei Tecmo wants to make $$$. Guess where Hyrule Warriors sold best?

Nope not Japan. It sold best in "the West".

Guess which FE games sold best in "the West"?

Yes you got it: Awakening and Fates.


Yeah, but that's no excuse to ONLY pay attention to those two games and the first.
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XylonTheManaket posted...
There is no such thing as unbiased. Especially not coming from you.

coming from the guy who says anyone who played The Sacred Stones isn't a true fire emblem fan
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skier8390 1 day ago#42
RoyalDroneX posted...
XylonTheManaket posted...
There is no such thing as unbiased. Especially not coming from you.

coming from the guy who says anyone who played The Sacred Stones isn't a true fire emblem fan


Yes talk about the pot calling the kettle black.
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DreTam2000 posted...
tr1bes posted...
I got my Dynasty Warriors, Samurai Warriors, Warrior Orochi, and Gundam Warriors to feel my taste. I don't need anymore look a like Warriors games again. The next thing you know is that they going to put Mario Warriors.

I honestly would LOVE a Mario Warriors. So many characters that often do not appear outside of party or specific types of games can appear here and help kick ass. <3
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skier8390 1 day ago#46
Arcanine2009 posted...
Honestly, a game like Warriors should prioritize more in stable 60 fps than 1080p resolution. I'd take solid 60 fps with 720p any day over 30 fps with major dips and 1080p.


I agree. Unfortunately it sounds like, at least in the demo version, there are frequent framerate drops. :/
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Ulk 1 day ago#47
Combining a strategy series with one of the most braindead titles out there is still too off-putting for me.
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Thedraonlord 9 hours ago#48
Quexlaw posted...
I don't need trashy musou games.

Heck, I'm a huge Berserk fan and I didn't get the Berserk Musou game. It's for people with either absolutely nothing remotely worthwhile to do or for people who enjoy putting themselves into a close-to-braindead state. Both are people I tend to not associate with.

These games are also great stress release believe it or not.MWXIII posted...
This game looks beyond awful and isn't using the new open world build that dynasty warriors is using.

I might buy it because I sadly buy most of these hack and slash games but this seems really low quality compared to Dragon quest heroes 2

I play KOEI's Warriors games already, but that is a bad sign since this series is very low quality as is.TheZuperHero posted...
XylonTheManaket posted...
So how did a game very similar to PoR avoid crashing and burning like PoR? What did it have that PoR didn't? Hmm.....

Well, it wasn't slow as shit for starters. And it didn't divide up your characters into a bunch of teams locked away from you for large stretches of the game.

Was that the Gamecube one or the Wii one? Either way neither if those two systems sold as well as the 3ds (at least I don't think so) so that may also be a factor.
albertojz356 6 hours ago#49
If Eirika is in the roster I'll buy it, although Lissa being in there already makes the roster decent <3. I'm not a big fan of the popular Awakening/Fates characters but I like her.
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wingo84 6 hours ago#50
I’ll buy, enjoyed HW

Also, I’m not a huge fanny who cries because certain characters aren’t in the game :D
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    IloveElite 6 hours ago#51
    hmm nope, it's not for me. I'll give it a miss.
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    Quexlaw 6 hours ago#52
    Thedraonlord posted...
    Quexlaw posted...
    I don't need trashy musou games.

    Heck, I'm a huge Berserk fan and I didn't get the Berserk Musou game. It's for people with either absolutely nothing remotely worthwhile to do or for people who enjoy putting themselves into a close-to-braindead state. Both are people I tend to not associate with.

    These games are also great stress release believe it or not.

    I don't think that "it relieves stress" is a solid pro for a game.. as that's very much the point of most games.
    If I want to relieve stress, I have dozens of games that have actual quality or unique design to them.
    Canas_Renvall 5 hours ago#53
    skier8390 posted...
    GuyKopski posted...
    If they really wanted to appeal to Western fans, Ike and Lyn would be in the base game. And yet, they are almost certainly being left out so they can be sold as DLC later.

    This is a marketing ploy, nothing more. They're using games that are currently on the market so they can boost each others' sales. Then they'll charge more for the real fan favorites later on.


    Real fan favorites for real fans? Well I guess you've got it all figured out then. I'm waiting for the next post from a FE "vet" discussing how all the copies Awakening and Fates sold was just a fluke and why the characters in those games are all one dimensional. 

    Characters like Chrom, Corrin, and Camilla are popular and real fan favorites. Deal with it.

    Who won the FE Heroes vote?
    Lyn.
    Play games, not companies.
    Amakusa 4 hours ago#54
    skier8390 posted...
    Have you ever wanted to impale your enemies with an ax and use the enemies themselves as weapons? Well that's possible in Warriors as shown by the bratty but well meaning princess, Lissa from Fire Emblem Awakening.

    Xu Huang was doing that already. Made him a ridiculously safe character to use in the later Dynasty Warriors games and Warriors Orochi 3.
    I will rule the world, and find that truly good cup of coffee.
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    kirbyhoakage 4 hours ago#55
    can you actually die in these games?
    FC: 3609-2443-9791
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    2. Nintendo Switch 
    3. Yet another reason to buy Fire Emblem Warriors

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