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https://ninmobilenews.com/news/2017/08/11/nintendo-faces-lawsuit-detachable-controllers-nintendo-switch/
Gamevice, an accessory maker for mobile devices has filed a lawsuit for allegedly violating a patent found in their Wikipad system.
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HayashiTakara posted...
patent trolls, it never gets old This isn't a patent troll situation. Wikipad was actually brought to market and sold by the company. It was actually a fairly cool idea, just not well executed. It was a Tegra 3 tablet with detatcgable controllers. Unfortunately, it didn't make it to market until waaaay after the Tegra 4 came out and the Tegra 3 was all but forgotten. They're still dreaming about a ban, and Nintendo definitely didn't get the idea from them.
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Boomer_Kuwanga posted...
HayashiTakara posted...patent trolls, it never gets old looking at the image, it's more of a sleeve for a tablet, that gives controller functionality and speaker output. It's so different from what the joycons are, it's not even funny.
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meestermj posted...
One of the dumbest lawsuits I've ever heard of. The initial success of the Switch is probably the reason for the lawsuit. This other company is seeing how their "idea" is successful on another product and want their share of profits. If the Switch was a sales disaster right now, I bet they wouldn't care. These lawsuits only seem to come about when someone feels they aren't cashing in on what they feel is their idea when it's on another successful device or product.
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I thought an idea had to be truely original for a lawsuit like this to hold up....not something along the lines of its the same color....Boomer_Kuwanga posted...
HayashiTakara posted...patent trolls, it never gets old Not only that theres been detachable controllers for years https://www.amazon.com/Controller-PYRUS-Telescopic-Wireless-Controllers/dp/B01ADD49XM/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1502432147&sr=8-9&keywords=android+controller
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HayashiTakara posted...
Boomer_Kuwanga posted...HayashiTakara posted...patent trolls, it never gets old It doesn't matter what their product is. It matters what the patented. If they patented "detachable controllers" and not just their design, things could be different. But to press a point, aren't most wireless controllers now "detachable" controllers? They can work when attached by a wire (for charging) and can work not attached to the home console.
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Boomer_Kuwanga posted...
HayashiTakara posted...patent trolls, it never gets old Just because it was a real product doesn't mean this isn't patent trolling. Chances are, they're just harassing Nintendo in the hopes they'll be thrown a lot of money to go away.
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Gotta love patent trolls. Every new idea ends up being "patented" by someone else without actually making use of said patent.
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On one hand I don't want to nintendo to lose cause I want a switch and i'm glad nintendo has finally gone the region free route
On the other hand, nintendo losing would definitely be some karmic justice after all the lawsuits they filed on their own fans. All that being said, I think patent laws are stupid and need to go. Like imagine if say atari had a patent for a device that lets you play games on your television and could sue anyone who made a game console? where would we be today? Imagine if the first television maker filed a patent on them? All patents do is limit the growth of technology. Imagine if we weren't allowed to use wheels because the inventor of the wheel had a patent on it. Technology grows quicker when you can take someone elses idea and make it better than they did. |
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Supah_Axel posted...
The only actual lawsuit was filed by the Pokemon Company, to my knowledge. And in the case, it was a cafe owner using Pokemon characters to promote his establishment. It's s***ty on their part, but the dude isn't exactally blameless... He was charging money to get into the event. That's usually a huge no no. Everything else was cease and desist.
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Supah_Axel posted...
On one hand I don't want to nintendo to lose cause I want a switch and i'm glad nintendo has finally gone the region free route You couldn't be more wrong. Patents don't limit the growth of technology, they're essential for it. Without patents people wouldn't be rewarded for their innovations. It wouldn't matter who was able to come up with any new technology, because anyone who put out a new technology would simply be copied and outdone by a large rich corporation who could do it for less. The general thought would be "Why bother?". Like it or not, people want to and NEED to be fairly compensated for their inventions. Capitalism is what has driven almost all of our technical innovation. Removing that basic reward would only serve to diminish the reward people get for advancing technology. That said, this is a clear case of patient trolling, and will have a grand effect of nothing. Frankly I hope Nintendo countersues for legal fees.
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It would be weird and kind of cool if this went through and only those of us with one now will ever be able to have them.
But honestly, this is pretty dumb. Obviously this won't go anywhere, and it only makes them look petty as hell for even attempting to sue Nintendo. Stop being jealous m8s. Your concept isn't even that similar.
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Oh look Nintendo did something right lets sue them! This is world in a modern line... As bad as this site is the idiots running around in the real world are some of the most moronic people I ever meet. A major Degree does not make one smart and this is a clear example.
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AstralFrost posted...
Well that could be it for the Switch. At least we won't have to worry about shortages anymore. Keep wishing
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AstralFrost posted...
Well that could be it for the Switch. At least we won't have to worry about shortages anymore. there will never be a shortage of trolls, patent or otherwise
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kirbyhoakage posted...
if they have proof that nintendo got the idea from them and use their documents or something like that then they will get a bunch of money from nintendo. and I'm sure proving that is going to be cheap
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Unless Nintendo uses the exact same system for attaching and detaching the controllers, the case holds no ground. Patents are there to protect the method to do something, not to prevent others from producing the same result with a different method.
SorrySleeping posted... It doesn't matter what their product is. It matters what the patented. If they patented "detachable controllers" and not just their design, things could be different. They can't just patent detachable controllers. They have to display the method they are using in detail for their detachable controllers as well before it can even get accepted as a patent. Unless there is only 1 way to achieve a result, a patent cannot prevent other companies from achieving the same result or something similar with a different method.
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If the Switch wasn't very clearly an expansion/refinement of the WiiU concept, they might have something. Still probably not because there are tons of s***ty mobile controllers, but hey, at least we've all heard of their company now. Good for them; their frivolous lawsuit got people talking about them.
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BadDecisions posted...
If the Switch wasn't very clearly an expansion/refinement of the WiiU concept, they might have something. Still probably not because there are tons of s***ty mobile controllers, but hey, at least we've all heard of their company now. Good for them; their frivolous lawsuit got people talking about them.Yeah but they pretty much just signed their own death warrant. Ain't nobody gonna wanna buy from the company that tried to kill the big N. Also, I imagine it's mostly a bluff to scare Nintendo into settling. I doubt they actually want to end the Switch.
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This is stupid... lol it will not be a good run for them... even more dumb is they want s ban on Switchs instead of royalties which would get them money for nothing... lol.
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NintendoLover25 posted...
Nintendo is too honorable to steal someone else's idea, they are innovators not followers.They're businessmen. Wake up. There's no honor in business. In this particular instance i don't believe they're at fault, but I'm sure they've done their fair share of dirt too, like Disney and any other childhood hero companies you may have.
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587Deathking posted...
https://ninmobilenews.com/news/2017/08/11/nintendo-faces-lawsuit-detachable-controllers-nintendo-switch/Gamevice, an accessory maker for mobile devices has filed a lawsuit for allegedly violating a patent found in their Wikipad system. this will go down in history right next to edge gaming trademarking the word edge idoits being idoits not to point this out or anything but pure concept of detachable controller trademarking just like tm word edge... we should get xbox and sony up in this lawsuit i mean they pretty much had 1st detachable controllers... logic sake of a controller that can be used connected or disconnected from the system with a cord thus ps3/4 mainly and xbox ones battery packed controllers are detachable controllers that can be used in both forms (not to point out the original nintendo had a detachable "arcade type controller system" good like find that most classic systems had a concept for the idea plugs directly into the system they sure know how waste money on pointless lawsuits if this is true @kirbyhoakage posted... if they have proof that nintendo got the idea from them and use their documents or something like that then they will get a bunch of money from nintendo. even if they have proof of the idea they have nothing on nintendo as nintendo has countless already patented concepts for the switch and its controls and i will be honest here never heard of gamevice so odds are they will end up their with edge gaming
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