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"The development of succeeding machines for the GBA and Game Cube are in the works, separately from the Nintendo DS."
Unless you believe they are talking about the Micro it was nothing more than PR because they continued making GBA games. https://www.gamespot.com/articles/nintendo-ds-not-game-boy-advances-successor/1100-6086771/ Switch IS the 3DS successor. Its just Nintendo don't want to admit they have bailed on the home console market and they are still making 3DS games. |
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the Switch is the Wii U's successor.
The GBA never got a successor, the DS is a new product line. ALso if you don't want to count the Wii as the gamecube's successor (even though they were the exact same console outside of control methods, and amount of available memory), the Wii U would be the Gamecube and Wii's successor
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@MegaMettaur posted...
the Switch is the Wii U's successor. You are contradicting the fact that Nintendo will obviously eventually make a full handheld version of the Switch without the dock to make it cheaper. Just admit you were wrong. |
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quickposter posted...
@MegaMettaur posted...the Switch is the Wii U's successor. They don't have to "make" anything; just sell it as-is without the dock. Dock's pretty damn cheaply made, anyway. |
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quickposter posted...
Its just Nintendo don't want to admit they have bailed on the home console market Huh.
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quickposter posted...
"The development of succeeding machines for the GBA and Game Cube are in the works, separately from the Nintendo DS." Cool. Conspiracy theories without any proof. Well, they wouldn't be conspiracies then, would they?
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VeiledGenesis posted...
quickposter posted..."The development of succeeding machines for the GBA and Game Cube are in the works, separately from the Nintendo DS." Its hardly a conspiracy theory. By design, technical performance and capabilities of the system Switch is a handheld. People are using the home console term used in marketing of the system as "proof" but the proof is in the playing. TLDR: Handhelds are where Nintendo succeed and Wii U was a flop so they delude sheep.
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GB>Virtualboy>GBC>GBA>DS>3DS
NES>SNES>N64>NGC>WII>WII U>SWITCH how much clear do you want it TC?
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tc is right
LOL at people falling for pr bs Sony for the players Ms exclusives which we mean are timed Nintendo aren't finished with consoles they swear Sega nintendont Seriously why not just swallow whatever these corporate tools tell you If you seriously think switch is even close to the capabilities of a console you may as well eat banana pudding to sweeten up the junk nintendo is feeding you all Wii u was nintendos last console Deal with it! |
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No, I'm going to agree with TC here.
Nintendo integrated their console and handheld dev teams within Nintendo Co. Ltd. before the launch of the Switch, it only makes sense that the Switch succeeds BOTH the Wii U AND the 3DS. Whatever they're putting out for the 3DS right now is probably the last of their development ideas coming through and being localized. Nintendo probably doesn't have any software for the 3DS that's still in the concept stage. They'll put out what's been announced, localize whatever still needs localization, and then end support for the thing. The Switch is going to be their bread and butter as well as their bacon. |
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MegaMettaur posted...
the Switch is the Wii U's successor. If you follow this line of reasoning, the Switch is also a new product line, and is the successor of nothing, just as the DS.
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Regular User User Since: Apr 2017 Karma: 68 Welcome to the board shortly after the Switch came out, good to have you here man.
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ssgoku831 posted...
oh boy here we go again lol if i had a dollar
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Vidgmchtr posted...
No, I'm going to agree with TC here. NES and gameboy research and development were the same, what is your point? that for a few years they split up and didnt work so they went back to NES/gameboy times exec decisions.
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MegaButterfree posted...
We don't know for sure. That's all there is to it really. We do know It is the 3ds successor Let me take what you lot think and that there is a different system that is the 3ds successor That is marketing suicide First of all not only is 3ds doing fine but switch is slowly absorbing the 3ds audience and the vita audience So what is the sense in doing a third handheld? Unless it is a smart phone Truthfully nintendo have never needed to have two competing systems in two different markets at the same time They can succeed on one market Conclusion: it is either the 3ds successor and they are not admitting it or they are about to throw away all this success by releasing a whole new handheld to compete with switch Not likely If anything pops up next year it will be a switch redesign |
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Titanfail2017 posted...
MegaButterfree posted...We don't know for sure. That's all there is to it really. funny they are only releasing ports of home console games and none from handhelds, remember Monster hunter is home console before portable, mario kart? home console, Zelda? console, Splatoon? home console, Arms? that looks designed for home console, Metroid prime4? guess what? home console. do i need more?
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dunnyrega posted...
NES and gameboy research and development were the same, what is your point? That if they're merging the teams, they probably have the mindset to keep the hardware side of things together as well, for awhile at least. that for a few years they split up and didnt work so they went back to NES/gameboy times exec decisions. And yes, they clearly can go back to being split, but I don't think that's in the cards for them at the moment. |
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Vidgmchtr posted...
dunnyrega posted...NES and gameboy research and development were the same, what is your point? err.. first of all it was only one team working NES/GB, and SNES, N64, and GBA, and the wii and DS was when they split into 2 teams.
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dunnyrega posted...
Titanfail2017 posted...MegaButterfree posted...We don't know for sure. That's all there is to it really. It does not matter if they were on consoles They did that with 3ds when it came out Ocarina, star fox and donkey kong returns all got on there Luigis mansion even got a sequel on 3ds Stop shifting goal posts to further your point and focus on my point about the marketing If they release a different handheld altogether to compete with switch and 3ds then the new handheld would be sent to die Nintendo could be stupid enough to release a different handheld onto a crowded market but after all they did to achieve this success it would be shooting themselves in the foot Unless they want this supposed 3ds successor that exists only in your brain to die switch is the 3ds successor
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Titanfail2017 posted...
Stop shifting goal posts to further your point and focus on my point about the marketing im not shifting anything, im always going to go with the decision of the CEO of the Main Branch in Japan, not what some random on a site that has no idea of what he or she is talking about. good bye, have a nice life.
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I will be shocked if there is another Nintendo handheld that is similar to tradition that is ever released.
I think a traditional Pokemon game coming to the Switch is proof enough. The tradition Pokemon games have been a staple in the handheld systems lineup and never a part of any of their console, until now.
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OmegaStriver posted...
I will be shocked if there is another Nintendo handheld that is similar to tradition that is ever released.
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dunnyrega posted...
Titanfail2017 posted...Stop shifting goal posts to further your point and focus on my point about the marketing LOL did you even read the article tc posted? They said this about ds |
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They also said the Switch wouldn't replace the Wii U.
We all know Switch is the successor to 3DS and Wii U. They don't make seperate platforms anymore, just one. Whether you think that means they've bailed on the home console market or handheld, it's your opinion. Officially they pulled out of the handheld market since Nintendo officially classifies Switch as a home console.
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Titanfail2017 posted...
MegaButterfree posted...We don't know for sure. That's all there is to it really. I personally think of it as being both a 3DS & Wii U successor for the time being, but still, anything can happen I guess. The 3DS isn't dead yet though, so for now it's definitely more of a Wii U successor, but once the main stuff like Pokémon/Fire Emblem/etc. comes out I think we'll start to see the 3DS releases dwindle & Switch will be priority.
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meanwhile switch has no 3d
and nintendo just made a "new 2ds" seems legit bigger question is at this point whos tc the successor of this topic honestly cant we just let this concept die sure was hot back when switch 1st came out now its just old tc doing bad job staying fresh and some posters are doing bad job of not getting cooked and staying off the hook
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I don't know what to tell some of you. A lot of you would make very bad business decisions. Nintendo is doing what Sony did with the Vita. They've pulled support for the existing system completely and shifted resources to what is selling. Since they've quietly killed Wii U in the way Sony did Vita the answer should be obvious but it seems some of you don't realise to this day that companies lie.
I personally think it is the same with X1X being the successor to X1. Nintendo and Microsoft will never admit they are quietly launching the successor as it would be terrible business decision to alienate the many who aren't ready/can't afford to upgrade yet. They never want to hear that 2 years from now their system is obsolete. It will turn out the same in all instances. Like Sony there is a market Nintendo have quietly bailed on and people will act shocked when they eventually admit to what some of us "preachers" are saying now. Like Microsoft they will never admit Switch is the 3DS successor because shifting your resources to a machine overnight when the other machine is still going is foolish and paints a bad future image for how you handle your systems We are not preachers. We are just more intelligent then some of the rest of you who seem to accept what they are told by marketing leaders who couldn't care less about anything but your cash. |
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The Switch will replace the 3DS whether you think it will or not and whether or not Nintendo wants it to or not.
quickposter posted... I don't know what to tell some of you. A lot of you would make very bad business decisions. Nintendo is doing what Sony did with the Vita. With the small caveat that they're doing it 6 years later after it was a huge success & Sony did it a year & half later with no success.
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@NeoMonk posted...
The Switch will replace the 3DS whether you think it will or not and whether or not Nintendo wants it to or not. I'm comparing the Vita situation to Wii U. They've quietly bailed on the console market because Wii U backfired so badly. It is true you could consider Switch a successor to both systems but I think a handheld version of Switch will come as they will have had a backup plan for it in case it didn't catch on. The console market has evolved far too out of reach with Nintendo's ideas and they are too behind in required areas (like online) to catch up to the others. To me they have bailed on consoles and Switch is their transition to a handheld future. How they go about admitting it is anybody's guess. |
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^ Alright bud.
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quickposter posted...
NeoMonk posted...The Switch will replace the 3DS whether you think it will or not and whether or not Nintendo wants it to or not. Going handheld only is what they should have done with 3ds I disagree with trolls who spout that garbage "nintendo have proven they cannot juggle between two systems" because both their handhelds and consoles have had a large variety of titles from them But focusing all their resources on a single system like the others would pay off so much more The customers they lose out of consoles might far outnumber the amount they gain in the market they dominate but it is better to stick with what you are good at Fans of sony handhelds and nintendo consoles just do not like to hear they fail in those areas |
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VanderZoo posted...
Officially they pulled out of the handheld market since Nintendo officially classifies Switch as a home console. no.. they refer to i as a portable home console. The only thing that is official is that it is either considered both or neither.\ And how they promote the console shifts depending on region, where it is mostly portrayed as a home console in the west and a handheld in the east.
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Titanfail2017 posted...
Fans of sony handhelds and nintendo consoles just do not like to hear they fail in those areas i dont get why any sensible person would be mad at the prospect of Nintendo's handheld and home console market becoming merged together tho. why WOULDN'T you want to be able to play everything from the new smash bros to the next Pokemon on a single device? The mere idea gets me hot in the pants.
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GallantChaddymn posted...
no.. they refer to i as a portable home console. Blatant lie, here in Japan is a Home console period.
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Kyoshiro12345 posted...
GallantChaddymn posted...no.. they refer to i as a portable home console. blatant lie here in Japan is a Handheld you can output to your TV period.
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Nintendo says Switch is their home console.
Their handheld line have always sold much more than their home console line. WHY would they give up their handheld line for Switch when 3DS sold more units before the price cut in the same timeframe as Switch?
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Switch and Wii U are placeholder consoles.
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Guys, Pokémon Switch is a thing. It's the 3DS successor.
What would an "actual" 3DS successor do over the Switch? If it's the same power wise then what's the point? If it's weaker then why would Pokémon jump back? If it's more powerful then what's the point of the Switch? Nintendo only calls it a console to please investors and diehards that won't admit that Nintendo basically gave up on the console bizz.
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The thing about the Switch is that it doesn't really function as a handheld device. I can't just toss it in my pocket and go. They would need to make it considerably smaller for it to really be a GB/DS replacement, which, certainly the technology exists to do so, but I don't think you can, in terms of cost effectiveness and general convenience, make the Switch into a primary handheld in 2017. Maybe in a few years, 2019, 2020, but right now? Shaving a few inches off in each direction makes the price skyrocket. I do think they'll condense down to a single product line in the near future, but the launch Switch isn't it.
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BadDecisions posted...
The thing about the Switch is that it doesn't really function as a handheld device. It functions as much as a handheld device as a tablet does, or the PSP, GB,GB Sega gamegear and VITA for the matter.
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BadDecisions posted...
The thing about the Switch is that it doesn't really function as a handheld device. I can't just toss it in my pocket and go. growing up I couldn't just toss my game gear in my pocket and go..does that mean it didn't function as a handheld device? The Switch is more portable than a game gear.
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GallantChaddymn posted...
BadDecisions posted...The thing about the Switch is that it doesn't really function as a handheld device. I could put a Game Boy or PSP into my pockets, but I've always worn jeans so ymmv. Vita and Game Gear were much larger and sold much worse. Vita also had actual sticks, like the Switch, which makes it even less pocketable. Tablets are multimedia machines that are widely useful for things other than games. You can throw a Switch in a case and throw that in you backpack no problem, but is a bit unwieldy. I like things I can just shove in my pants. |
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At present it just a Wii U's successor. If the Switch continues to do well eventually it will become the 3DS' successor as well. They are just giving themselves an out just in case the Switch flops. This was the same case for the DS. If the DS had flopped they would had release the next gen Gameboy. Just like if the Switch flops they will release the next gen DS.
Nintendo do hope the Switch does really well so they can combine both of their markets but make no mistake they probably have a back up plan which would be the next gen DS if things goes south.
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CrimsonSmasher posted...
Guys, Pokémon Switch is a thing. It's the 3DS successor. I agree about everything except the last line. They didn't give up on the console business. The truth is that there is no inherent difference. Technology has advanced enough to fuse both options into one, with a sacrifice in power. There is no need to have stationary home consoles anymore, except if you want to get the most power (out of a console). Technology is at a point where you can easily have graphics from the last generation on handheld; and I'm sure no one would say that PS3, Wii U, XBox 360 graphics are "handheld" graphics. If the Switch does well and does replace the 3DS soon, then we simply will get a much bigger library on a device that lets us play both on the big screen and on the go or in bed. It doesn't get much better than this. |
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The beauty of Switch being a hybrid is that Nintendo can lean either way of what to make of it.
If they wanted to release another DS successor, then they'll start marketing the Switch as a home console with the ability of taking it on the go. If they deem the Switch good enough to consolidate both the console and handheld market, then they'll market it accordingly. Either way, they're not deceiving anyone, seeing as Switch is a hybrid after all. |
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XylonTheManaket posted...
Nintendo says Switch is their home console. The reason they call it a Home Console is so they can sell there games at console prices. If they called it a handheld, People would expect the games to be priced the same as 3ds games.
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GallantChaddymn posted...OmegaStriver posted...
I will be shocked if there is another Nintendo handheld that is similar to tradition that is ever released.
I think a traditional Pokemon game coming to the Switch is proof enough. The tradition Pokemon games have been a staple in the handheld systems lineup and never a part of any of their console, until now.
This is literally all we need. The GBA/DS argument that everyone was spouting everywhere was an example taken from over a decade ago, made from an example that included backwards compatibility (Switch doesn't), and also was just a traditional handheld coming in with another on the market. We hadn't seen anything like Switch before on a big scale. So at the time, that argument proved almost nothing.
Traditional Pokemon being confirmed proves all we need for Switch being the successor, and should be what people point to from now on for this argument. I say this as someone who thought a dedicated 3DS successor was possible.weegee123457 posted...Traditional Pokemon being confirmed proves all we need for Switch being the successor, and should be what people point to from now on for this argument. I say this as someone who thought a dedicated 3DS successor was possible.
I don't see it. Gamecube had two Pokemon games that could almost be imagined as future-mainline Pokemon games.
I mean, I wish the Switch replaces the 3DS. But Pokemon coming to the Switch doesn't mean much on its own.
You see, it could be some sort of experiment. We don't know yet if there won't be yet another Pokemon for 3DS. Or who knows, maybe next E3 the successor of the 3DS is announced and future mainline Pokemon games will release on that one? It would be nonsensical for the consumers, of course, but Nintendo isn't exactly the most consumer-friendly games company out there.
As long as it gets them money they don't shy away from not upholding standards. Just look at Nintendo's online services, which you now even pay for; without receiving anything of value outside of a NES or SNES game with online capabilities. Or look at the recent Samus Returns amiibo fiasco.
I'd love if they ditched the 3DS as soon as possible. But since it's Nintendo, I'm not yet confident in them.Quexlaw posted...I don't see it. Gamecube had two Pokemon games that could almost be imagined as future-mainline Pokemon games.
I mean, I wish the Switch replaces the 3DS. But Pokemon coming to the Switch doesn't mean much on its own.
You see, it could be some sort of experiment. We don't know yet if there won't be yet another Pokemon for 3DS. Or who knows, maybe next E3 the successor of the 3DS is announced and future mainline Pokemon games will release on that one? It would be nonsensical for the consumers, of course, but Nintendo isn't exactly the most consumer-friendly games company out there.
As long as it gets them money they don't shy away from not upholding standards. Just look at Nintendo's online services, which you now even pay for; without receiving anything of value outside of a NES or SNES game with online capabilities. Or look at the recent Samus Returns amiibo fiasco.
I'd love if they ditched the 3DS as soon as possible. But since it's Nintendo, I'm not yet confident in them.
I'll see if I can find a source, but I think I remember someone going on record and saying that "core Pokemon title" meant a mainline series entry on Switch. Just to clear up this confusion lol.
Personally it doesn't bother me either way. The 240p screen doesn't really bug me since I'm a collector and I play on ancient hardware all the time. The 3DS could last forever for all I care. Or we could end up with a new handheld and that'd be okay too. I'm honestly not the biggest fan of the Switch taking over on handhelds since it's a bit too bulky and power hungry for my tastes as a portable guy. Mine is pretty much always docked or being played around the house.
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